Get well soon. Thank you for the informative post.
Wakanda
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Coronavirus Positive
by snare&racket inhey all,.
i'm day six of isolation, confirmed to have coronavirus.
i have been seeing very sick cv positive patients over the last month in my a&e role (emergency physician) it was inevitable i would contract it.. just wanted to give some symptom and treatment advice, it's anecdotal but may help.. started as sore throat and headache, then croaky voice, then dry cough, then episodic transient fevers, all this over the first few days.
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WT, and more contact, Do you think it is Narc Hoovering?
by Wakanda inthe behavior from the org lately had me a bit confused, as it seemed to fall outside of their norm.
i'm not talking the hardcore armageddon wishers texting each other about peace and security, etc.
* but, the elders contacting people daily, and having extra meetings where they have all their additional rules.
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Wakanda
I also think women are more likely to be contacted because the org does not think women own their minds. They think we get ideas from elsewhere, and are weak minded. Ha! Come and talk little flying monkeys. Let me show you a hint or two to start thinking.
Edit to say: People are going back because they did not do enough research.
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WT, and more contact, Do you think it is Narc Hoovering?
by Wakanda inthe behavior from the org lately had me a bit confused, as it seemed to fall outside of their norm.
i'm not talking the hardcore armageddon wishers texting each other about peace and security, etc.
* but, the elders contacting people daily, and having extra meetings where they have all their additional rules.
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Wakanda
The behavior from the Org lately had me a bit confused, as it seemed to fall outside of their norm. I'm not talking the hardcore Armageddon wishers texting each other about peace and security, etc.* But, the elders contacting people daily, and having extra meetings where they have all their additional rules. They could care less for years, and now they are so "lovingly" trying to get everyone super active? (no t.p., shopping for elderly, food for elderly or anything useful, btw) On the other hand some are not contacted at all, and that made me ponder a bit too. Although, I must admit I just thought that they all know you are a dangerously mentally diseased apostate!^ But, I think you are cool. It got me thinking of the Narcisisstic Hoover, and I watched a video about it. It said it is hard to avoid, but think about the future faking from the past. In JW land that would be the paradise "carrot". She said, "You are in the future now. Are you where the Narcissist said you would be? Then why believe him now?" Anyway, she also said the trigger for the Narcissist to hoover (named because they try to suck back their victims) is feeling vulnerable and needy for some reason. It happens after a separation, and the GB were separated from a lot of their flock for a week or two, and they must feel vulnerable to this sickness since they are the target demographic. They, of course, felt vulnerable because a break means people leave. Then there is "never let a good crisis go to waste" and the sucking in POMIs just in case this is "the last of the last days". Remember in the early 90s, they were saying "we are deep in the time of the end". I wasn't going to link the video, but here it is. Let me know what you think of my thoughts and/or the video if you want. Thank you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIbRFv6sIOk
*Meh, IDK, since I believe a lot, not all, of this has it's roots in conversations with people at the branch starting rumors, and that comes from the top. I heard from someone who talked to a bethelite since this started that bethel is thinking this may be the beginning of the end, so there. ? Heresy I know,
^Complete narcissist discard.
ps. One rule on power is to get others to do your power play, and that is the GB using elders and COs.
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Personal story
by Youngaposthate ini was raised in this sect, 1st gen. was isolated from any family.
had suicidal attempts because of this sect.
family as always instead of being a backbone of support, victim blamed.
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Wakanda
YA, Thank you for sharing an overview of the JW train wreck running over you. ACEs are so enlightening. Born-ins have so many, some more than others. You have my sympathies and I believe you have a positive future. You are fixing, the best way science knows, the damage done. That enables you to move forward to great things.
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Give Us Your Money! Appalling!
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara inhttps://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/frnku0/jesus_is_your_source_so_give_me_money/.
zing.
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Wakanda
Thank you Zing.
I also found it appalling when you listen closely to M. Stephen Lettus take your money in 2015. He said something like "in this coming year we have predicted....there is more money going out than going in...for this particular time"
I think I'm right about the tense change too. Deceptive, and bad english if true.
No mention of the possible 2 billion in the bank.
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IT experts
by Youngaposthate ingood day former jdubs, i'm a new member, particularly looking for it experts whome can verify if the jw apps track its members and record audio, particularly the khonf app.
if you download app on google play store and click the headphones, a pop up requiring user to click pop up to enable audio recording is displayed.
i'm minorly aware of the evolution of tech and tracking scandals.
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Wakanda
If they don't recognize a person on KHConf phone in, they go around asking other elders or servants most likely (because the elders sit on ivory thrones figuratively) if he recognizes this number. If they don't recognize the number they can kick you off, and in the last year or so, probably would, unless you are in a particularly chill congregation. Now there's an oxymoron. I've heard them bragging about throwing an unknown number off the line. So, someone goes through their contacts, and says, yeah that's so and so's number, keep 'em on. It's a little hub bub it at the meeting among the servant body and the sheep are like "what's going on?" (because they are bored out of their minds). KHconf keeps track of the minute you call in and the minute you hang up, and keeps the info for at least months if not longer. They assign a name to the number in the system. I would not doubt it has an archive feature. Or at least weirdos can screen shot the results. You can print off who was on for the longest the last 3 months or whatever length of time you want, 4 months, etc. It counts up their minutes and tallies them. Brother or Sister crazy that calls in 30 minutes early always wins.
Welcome Youngaposthate! I wish you luck in your endeavors and am curious about their results.
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why did jehovah create corona virus?
by stan livedeath inwhy did jehovah create the strains of corona virus ?.
is it part of the great tribulation that is closer than ever now ?.
what if lots of his people die from it ?.
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Wakanda
"But... have you thought of this - social distancing make paedophilia very difficult. That's a big plus for some."
Yes for some. But,
Not if you live with your perp, like the vast majority. Sorry to burst your bubble. This is a big reason why wt's way of dealing with it is so wrong. Leave it up to the family to report the pedo? When he or she is mom or dad?This time is extra hard on some people, especially abused kids of all sorts.
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Question For People Being Put Onto A Ventilator - How Is It Powered?
by Simon inimagine you or a loved one have to go onto a ventilator and are given the choice of how it should be powered.
what are people picking?.
coal or oil powered energy.
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Wakanda
Bicycle powered by someone not so sick?
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Zoom zoom rules +
by Wakanda in1. and this is most important, everyone listen up: dress up like you normally would for meeting!
-oh, gawd.. 2. if you use a zoom background, make sure it is not distracting, or something crass like prison.
stick with something dignified and subtle.
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Wakanda
1. And this is most important, everyone listen up: dress up like you normally would for meeting! -Oh, gawd.
2. If you use a zoom background, make sure it is not distracting, or something crass like prison. Stick with something dignified and subtle. -Ha! prison would be appropriate!
3. It is new, but we want to encourage everyone to answer because your answers encourage others to participate. -Answer up circle jerk?
4. Please put your last and first name on zoom so the brothers can call on you. -Yeah, right... that is why you want our names, not to report back to our overlords that we were there. You can see us the same as at the hall!
Next meeting will be about how we do not have rules and that is why different congregations met when others didn't. It isn't that we aren't organized and are scrambling to keep control of you...
Also, hearing that lots of people are getting scared and going back by attending these Zoom meetings. uggh. People need to do their research.
Oh! Oh! I almost forgot, the most important. The meeting code (?) and password might change each time, and you will get an email invite a few hours before each meeting. -oooooh, like a secret knock! We must be in the end!
Also, people are saying this is what they do in China, yeah right. If you want a ticket out of China and a bill for it with those Zoom security leaks!
BTW, they lie so much. I heard they didn't have any web security and Jehovah miraculously took care of them until 2015ish when some JW alerted them to the danger. Well, ex-bethelites who worked in web/internet security tell a different tale from 2011 when they were threatened by Anonymous. They had security before that and locked that s... down.
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JW NY and covid-19
by Gorbatchov indoes someone know how jw's in and arround ny, and the hq's are affected by covid-19?
many infected?
lock down of hq's?.
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Wakanda
They closed NY Bethels to the public March 7th. Way before they told JW's to stop meeting, in fact they encouraged some to continue to meet according to the letters from Atlantis and Petra. Well, at the least they did not discourage meeting, and we know they are brainwashed into thinking not going to meeting could mean losing their life in the big A. We had 20+ old people at meeting the week of March 9th (we listened in, refusing to go because we have some brains). I also think a case could be made that they first told Britain and other places to stop holding meetings for publicity because of IICSA and other sensitive areas.
see betheltours4u for the bethel closure.