Posts by iloowy.goowy

Given the videos idolizing Rutherford, I don't believe this current GB would be ready to drop him, much less Freddy Franz, their Bethel Oracle of decades.

What I believe may continue to take place is more vitriol for apostates and warnings to stay away from negative information.

The b0rg is bleeding membership but there was a time in when common medical practice was to bleed the body, apply leaches and use maggots to eat at dying flesh. The GB are leeches and maggots, operating in the 1800s, they'll bleed the membership and try to destroy dissenters to keep their 0rganization under control.

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What exactly IS 1914 these days?

by Halcon in

it's no longer a year tying to the present (the old pre-1995 generation belief).

realistically, that's the only reason why it mattered.

and if it doesn't really matter what it is anymore, why would jw not do away with it?.

iloowy.goowy

Because their supposed spiritual aurhority hangs on the related date of 1919. If there is no invisible return in 1914 then there is no inspection and being chosen as the FDS in 1919, and so they would not be in charge of the 0rganization.

...edited to say I just saw Vanderhoven7 beat me to the answer. Kudos!

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This verses will get you disfellowshipped in 2024

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/cefnvubzxce?si=edha3qmax4fxlwqq.

everyone who pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the christ does not have god.

the one who does remain in this teaching is the one who has both the father and the son.

iloowy.goowy

Eric Wilson from Beroean Pickets uses this same verse to kick out people from his Zoom study sessions

It doesn't surprise. Give an exJW elder some power over other people and especially telling them what they "should" believe and it will turn out badly.

Jim Penton is always talking about freedom in Christ so It's not surprising they would jump all over him and not let him even comment. But I believe Eric Wilson invited him back since he needed Jim's publishing house, Hart Publishers to get his book "Shutting the door to the Kingdom of God" published. But if he doesn't need you and you disagree with his revised Watchtower teachings, forgeddabout it, he shuns worse than the JW 0rganization.

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This verses will get you disfellowshipped in 2024

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/cefnvubzxce?si=edha3qmax4fxlwqq.

everyone who pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the christ does not have god.

the one who does remain in this teaching is the one who has both the father and the son.

iloowy.goowy

Wrong. I say that. Israel has been filled

Care to explain???

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The TWO new things to come this year for J.W Org !

by Phizzy in

while having my first strong black coffee of the day, i was thinking about what may be to come next as the org.

rapidly goes mainstream, and this is what i came up with :.

1) they will introduce for sunday, the after meeting fellowship, a time for just chatting but with the added bonus of coffee and snacks.

iloowy.goowy

Nope, ain't gonna happen, although I'd be delighted if it did. The problem is that it does nothing for Momma 0rganization, but could turn into problems. They now own and insure the Kingdom Hall from Warwick so they'd shy aeay from any liability that could develop. The blood thing if cha he'd could turn into many wrongful death cases popping up, so that they'll be leaving as is in a sort of limbo self-disassociation for the foreseeable future. Nevertheless, this GB is not what others were in the past and could have a few more surprises up its sleeve.

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Trickle or flood?

by joey jojo in

now that some reasonably big changes have occurred in a short time frame, whats next?

will the gb let the dust settle for a bit, or will they keep dropping bombs this year?.

iloowy.goowy

They did warn about not freaking out about decisions which would seem ridonkulous from a human perspective, of course I paraphrase for perceived understanding

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If the org. Is being advised by consultants, is a name change in the works?

by nowwhat? in

let's be honest, there's a stigma to the name jehovah's witness.

if they are going more mainstream.

i imagine the first recommendation was a name change.

iloowy.goowy

The name makes them special and clearly differentiates them from other Christian groups. There would need to be further reason to differentiate and a strong man heavy handed leader to make that change as Rutherford did to differentiate his organization from the other Bible Student groups. The current Governing Body doesn't have the cojones of Rutherford. And there aren't any strong off-shoot groups to the level of forcing their hand. The offshoot groups in Europe and Africa are small and don't pose much of a challenge.

If these and future changes cause a big exodus, then there may be a name change, sort of like the CoG Armstrong becoming the Grace Communion International.

But this doesn't seem likely to me just yet. I believe the situation would need to be worse before a name change would take place.

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The History and Impact of Disfellowshipping and Shunning (Dr. M. James Penton)

by iloowy.goowy in

the history and impact of disfellowshipping and shunning (dr. m. james penton).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwdv1-apzlc.

the history and impact of disfellowshipping and shunning: a jehovah's witness inquisition by dr. m. james penton, 2003. recording of a discourse delivered at the " out of the watchtower - into christ" convention of former jehovah's witnesses in england and wales, where he discusses how the watchtower evolved its doctrine on disfellowshipping and shunning by twisting scripture, and the impact this has had on many watchtower victims.

iloowy.goowy

The History and Impact of Disfellowshipping and Shunning (Dr. M. James Penton)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWdv1-apzlc

The History and Impact of Disfellowshipping and Shunning: A Jehovah's Witness Inquisition by Dr. M. James Penton, 2003. Recording of a discourse delivered at the " Out of The Watchtower - into Christ" convention of former Jehovah's Witnesses in England and Wales, where he discusses how the Watchtower evolved its doctrine on disfellowshipping and shunning by twisting scripture, and the impact this has had on many Watchtower victims. Dr. Penton also provides great insights into the Watchtowers early leadership.