Posts by iloowy.goowy

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OPINIONS PLEASE: I propose a new strategy against the Watchtower policy of DISFELLOWSHIP

by Terry in

i need your opinion and a discussion...tell me what you think, both pros and cons...the governments of norway and russia have both targeted watchtower's severely inhumane policy of disfellowship separating and isolating members by ostracizing them and labeling them as 'mentally diseased", etc.

dis fellowship.is a mushy concept unfamiliar to non-jw's.that word doesn't convey brutal, cold, and uncaring shunning and the impact on vulnerable persons cut off from family and friends.i propose swapping the phrase "religious apartheid" for the term "disfellowship" because it is significantly more impactful, familiar, and gut-wrenching.jw's teach practice and promote discrimination, opprobrium, and animus in punishing by isolation those who disagree with their doctrines.

moreover - it is a de facto death sentence both spiritually and (according to the expectation of armageddon) literally as well.

iloowy.goowy

You are right, Terry.

From the Australian proceedings, it was obvious the WT wanted to confuse and obfuscate the court, to the point of saying a person disfellowships him or herself and shun the congregation.

Angus Stewart, though, did an excellent job of getting out exactly what the doctrine and practice of the JW/WT is in reality.

Words convey ideas clearly if we understand the connotation and exact meaning. Otherwise, the same words can mean different things in different cultural and societal settings.

Associating the WT doctrine and practice of disfellowshipping with relations in a way others can identify with, calling it religious apartheid, brings a deeper emotionally felt understanding to it.

Kudos! I'll definitely start referring to it and describing it that way.

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Beyah the God of the Jews?

by peacefulpete in

having stumbled upon this little tidbit, i thought i'd share.

i've a few times mentioned the midianite or kennite hypothesis which assumes the numerous ot texts that describe yahweh as having migrated north to judah represent credible mnemonic history.

while reading an article by prof. israel knohl i learned something rather surprising.

iloowy.goowy

Initial B is a preposition as you mentioned not part of the name. Are you saying it parallels with the name Baal? Because "in Baal" would be b'Baal" and in Yah would be "baYah". https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D7%91%D6%BE

Cloud rider is definitely a Divine reference. That is why the Hight Priest threw a hissy fit when Jesus said he would see the Son of man coming in the clouds, and called it blasphemy.

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Face-Masks - don't stop infection OR transmission!

by BoogerMan in

pores in surgical face-masks = 600 microns.

coronavirus = between 0.125 & 5 microns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qomrgfyfdie&t=227s.

iloowy.goowy

Do masks provide perfect protection, no.

DO they offer some protection, yes. And that is better than no protection at all.

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drinking wine in the Kingdom

by enoughisenough in

something jumped out at me that i never paid attention to while reading further into matt 26...in vs 28, he tells them his blood is to be poured out for the many for forgiveness of sin.

but note vs 29 but i say to you: i will no menas drink again any of this product of the vine until that day when i drink it new with you in the kingdom of my father.

cross reference luke 22:18 for i tell you , from now on, i will not drink again from the product of the vine until the kingdom of god comes.. what is the point of all of this: matt 26:29 " i drink it new with you " mark 14:25 " drink new in the kingdom of god.

iloowy.goowy

In fulfillment of Psalm 69 Jesus drinks of the fruit of the vine at the cross. It is the fourth and last cup of the Passover seder.

JOHN 19:28-30 28 After this, Jesus, knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the Scripture might be fulfilled, said, “I thirst!” 29 Now a vessel full of sour wine was sitting there; and they filled a sponge with sour wine, put it on hyssop, and put it to His mouth. 30 So when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And bowing His head, He delivered up His spirit.

The hyssop brings back to mind how the blood of the lamb was brushed onto the doorposts on the first Passover.

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Am I being unreasonable in this ?

by smiddy3 in

hi friend`s ,i have my son and dil living with us ,which has been ok,overall ,quite a few years now ,however ,a few months ago they decided they wanted a dog ok ?

we had one a toy poodle for about 16-17 years and i just loved her as did my wife.. a few months ago my son wanted a dog and got a french bulldog as a pup ,which was ok by us .. however to cut a long story short, yesterday i was out in the back yard and the dog lunged at me and started attacking me in such a way as i can only describe as being frenetic in his attack ,in trying to ward off his attack and getting away from him i fell over and i believe if my son hadn`t finlly restrained him he would have mauled me .

i am 83 years old and my wife has just turned 80. and i dont want that to happen to her .. i don`t know the dog is what 4-5-6 months old i`m not sure , and been living with us all this time ,however i`m going to tell them to get that dog out of my house by the week and and a half or i will one way or another .. i am not going to tolerate that in my household and if he don`t like it he can go also .. i`m not being unreasonable am i ?

iloowy.goowy

Smiddy, you did the right thing. That dog can't be trusted. Either they get rid of the dog or can find somewhere else to be with their dog but you should feel safe in your own home.

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God Talks to Himself in the Trinity Bible

by BoogerMan in

psalm 110:1 (niv) “the lord says to my lord: “sit at my right hand until i make your enemies a footstool for your feet.”” .

psalm 110:1 (trv) “the lord god almighty says to a third of himself: “sit at my/our right hands until i make our/your enemies a footstool for our/your feet.”” (but don't tell the other third) .

iloowy.goowy

What the heck is so hard to get?

Elohim can mean more than the one Almighty God, the Son is Elohim like the other sons of God, read psalm 82.

It is like in English when you say the Administration. Well there is only one CEO Almighty. Not all members of an administration are the same person, but all are administrating, and running things. Not all members of the Board are the one same person, but all are members of the one same Board.

The OT is henotheistic not monotheistic. There are many Elohim, but no Elohim is the Father except the Father, the only one who comes close is the Son, the spokesman for the Father. They can both wield their administrative power through the Spirit. The Board is a Divine Council.

Search for Michael Heiser and the Divine Council for some good insight into what the Hebrew text says about Elohim.

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Hour Requirement for Regular Pioneers

by iloowy.goowy in

elders to meet with meet with regular pioneers asap and review their progress.

announcement.

december 12, 2022. for elders.

iloowy.goowy

Elders to meet with meet with regular pioneers asap and review their progress.

Announcement

December 12, 2022

FOR ELDERS

1. Hour Requirement for Regular Pioneers: As soon as possible, the body of elders

should assign two elders to meet with the regular pioneers in the congregation to read to

them the announcement for regular pioneers. The two elders should use this opportunity to

commend, offer encouragement, and share practical suggestions as the pioneers resume a

full schedule in the ministry.

FOR SECRETARIES AND SERVICE OVERSEERS

1. Review of Regular Pioneers’ Field Service Activity: In June 2023, please review the

field service activity of all regular pioneers. If it is evident that a pioneer does not have a

practical schedule or the circumstances to meet the hour requirement, the service overseer

and group overseer should meet with him and kindly but frankly discuss his circumstances.

This will be an opportunity to provide the pioneer with practical suggestions and appropriate

assistance.

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Faithful & Discreet Slave - 72 years ago!

by BoogerMan in

it was every jw taking part in the preaching work.

lol.. (matthew 24:45) “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?.

w50 7/1 p. 199 par.

iloowy.goowy

If you read it with a WT spiritual worship filter in mind you see that it's saying only Jehovah's Servants, that's the anointed JWs who are the FDS and they go find the other sheep non-anointed ones to teach them WT doctrines.

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Can you answer my questions, please?

by Sandie in

i have three questions.

i would be most grateful if someone could respond for me, please.

thank you.. 1. can jehovah's witnesses practice faith with the bible as a guide, or is it crucial to include the teachings of the watchtower society?

iloowy.goowy

Hi Sandie,

For #2, I'd like to add that the WT teaches that Jesus is the Word and "a god" with a lower case 'g' and thus fit into the category of henotheists.

They see Almighty God as Jehovah and that Jesus was the first creation by God.

Sort of like modern form of Arianism.

They regard Satan, the Devil, as the god of this world and system of things.

Jesus has been entrusted by His Father, God Almighty, with the power to defeat Satan and usher in the Kingdom of Heaven, where he with 144000 chosen and Holy Spirit anointed JWs will reign from over the Earth for a thousand years.

To explain these teachings they have a scripture chain of proof texts taken out of context from the Bible and written about ad nauseam in their huge production of literature, audio and video training materials.

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UKRAINE: are things SO bad......

by BoogerMan in

jw
friends

....that fighting-fit young ukrainian men are having to be evacuated - to accommodation in dublin city centre?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqq2aj0lohu.

beats the rubber dinghies, i suppose..

iloowy.goowy

@BoogerMan

You say:
"They may be right or they may be wrong"

But you certainly go with them being from Ukraine. Why?

You chose to give an impression and to make a point that's plain bullsh¡t and you want to pass it as truth.

To cast shade on Ukrainians? It might be wrong information, but you're posting it here like it's Ukrainians to somehow in some twisted way cast shade on Ukraine.

What you're doing is playing into the hands of Putin Khuylo, responsible for the murder of thousands upon thousands in country after country. And you're trying to scandalize other people with your bullsh¡t "They may be right or they may be wrong."

Very lame excuse to say "They may be right or they may be wrong"!

You're showing everyone here your opinion and your purpose in posting is just that plain bullsh¡t.