Posts by no1uno

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Satan Claus

by SwedishChef in

santa claus takes the place of god in the holidays.

similarities between santa and god:.

quality of santa claus #1:.

no1uno

SwedishChef: They say great minds think alike:

On my website I have a "pop-up quiz" comparing Santa with Jehovah. There are a lot of similarities, and people mostly believe in the one for the same reason they believed in the other: they were broght up to believe it. It is socially acceptable in our culture to lose the former belief when one realizes that such a belief is at odds with reality. Unfortunately, we are expected to retain the latter belief, even though it is just as much at odds with reality.

The biggest difference between Santa and Jehovah is that the former never hurt a child (other than by delivering a lump of coal rather than the wished-for gift). Jehovah, on the other hand, ordered the butchering of children, babies, and pregnant women.

Logic asked:

What is so wrong and pathetic about teaching people to be grateful for what they have? All he wants is for us to not take food for granted cos how many millions of people die of starvation?

There is nothing wrong with gratitude. But let's direct it towards the correct source. An omnipotent benevolent being is not compatible with "millions of people dying of starvation." If someone were capable of preventing starvation and didn't prevent it, such a being would not merit our gratitude.

And how do you know what "he" wants us to do? I'm sorry, but one of my pet peeves is people telling me what "God" does and doesn't like. Does "he" talk to you directly, or what? I think it should be pretty obvious by now that no one knows more about the unknowable than anyone else. It could just as easily be that a supreme being might hate sycophants, and my saying so is just as authorative as your saying that "he" wants us to thank "him" for providing us with enough food while "he" watches 20,000 children die daily of malnutrition.

Finally, there is a reason why no one knows the "exact date" when Jesus was born: he probably wasn't.

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Man 0 - Jehovah 1

by PopeOfEruke in

what really started cheesing me off with the wt and awake magazines while i was still an active jw was the constant propaganda based on man versus jehovah.

it was as if there was a great tug-of-war being propogated between man and god by the wt society.

everything that man made was constantly criticised and belittled, while whatever jehovah made was so great!

no1uno

Mr. Lefty Yardif,

You need professional help.

Seriously.

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advice giving

by yumbby in

jw
friends

it's really amazing the changes you go through getting away from the "troof".. things you didn't even know affected you.

like compulsive advice giving.

did you ever notice that witnesses are conditioned to have an answer for everything???

no1uno

I think everything everyone has said so far on this topic is correct.

I mostly hate unsolicited advice, but I when I ask for advice I have a great desire for it (whether it's positive or negative, or even ultimately useless; I at least get feedback of some sort and it seems to fill a need).

I agree that ex-JW's are no more qualified than anyone else to give advice (other than on the topic of adjusting to reality once out of a cult). It is erroneous to think that we have all of the answers (though we were trained to think exactly that). And the fact that we were once so duped does add some tarnish to our reputation for now "knowing the truth" about everything.

That said, I for one value the opinions and advice given by ex-JW's because I feel a bond with them, and I think most of them are well-meaning and are sincere in their quest for truth. That's probably true of most people who are not ex-JW's, but I don't instantly know "where they're coming from".

In my own case, part of my "advice giving" (mostly done via my website) stems from a need to try and undo all the damage I did in "field service" by attempting to now "set the record straight".

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Thermodynamics Falsifies Evolution

by SYN in

jw
friends

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an interesting article.

your comments, guys?.

no1uno

Oh, this article is sooooooo scientific sounding! Didn't it impress you?

It reminded me of the Watchtower's own struggle to sound like it knew what it was talking about when it came to reality! -- And how that used to impress me before I developed my "baloney detector".

All the information stressed in this article makes it clear that evolution is a dogma that is against empirical science and the origin of living beings can only be explained by the intervention of a supernatural power. That supernatural power is the creation of God, who created the entire universe from nothing. Science has proven that evolution is still impossible as far as thermodynamics is concerned and the existence of life has no explanation but creation.

There may be a problem, here though. Isn't there another law of physics which states that you can't create something out of nothing? I mean, if he's right, and we're going to rule out evolution due to its supposedly violating the laws of physics, then turnabout is fair play: we'd have to rule out creation as well.

Sorry, but to put it politely as I can: this article is the biggest bunch of crap I've read since I put down my last Watchtower.

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Thank you for your replies!

by scaredyetresolved in

jw
friends

i told my husband last week that i didn't plan on going to chats or forums.

we've been trying very hard to stay on neutral ground.

we began by just researching all the history of jws and turning to the publications published by the society, to either back the history we were reading, or to dispel it.

no1uno

Dear ScaredButResolved,

Best wishes on your escape! I broke the chains around my life 25 years ago, and it was the best decision I ever made (though painful at the time).

Things may have changed in the past 25 years, but back then decorating an xmas tree would have led to at least a public reproof, if not more. It would certainly raise red flags in the eyes of the elders. If you really want to fade out, I would recommend thinking twice about making a show of celebrating xmas this year.

I know that the taste of freedom is intoxicating, and it sounds like you have a strong desire to celebrate xmas. But I think this would be perceived as thumbing your nose at the society. Most of us would love to do just that, but I think it would derail your plan to fade out.

Welcome to the free world!