Ooooo. Interesting. Wondering if there will be encrypted digital tracking metadata for each downloaded copy.
That could allow them to determine who leaks a copy.
after years of leaked info, the gb has finally decided to publish their own shepherding textbook in epub format.. dear brothers:.
we are pleased to inform you that the shepherding textbook is now available in epub,.
mobi, and pdf format.
Ooooo. Interesting. Wondering if there will be encrypted digital tracking metadata for each downloaded copy.
That could allow them to determine who leaks a copy.
wife and i have not reported a single hour of fs in 3-4 months.
while my wife is mostly doing for me (positive thing), i know she would have rather done it.
elder asked me to turn in my fs report this past week and then he added... "we need to talk".
Elder: "We need to talk."
Fader: "Nope, I'm good. Who's this 'we' you're talking about? Do you have a Mouse in your pocket?"
so took the wives car instead of mine in today, the watchtower was playing, i got to hear t.morris life story as narrated by him, but that is another story entirely... long story short, the study article it went into was about satan.
first of all the person reading sounded like the epitome of a brainwashed drone.
second this is why meeting and hearing these things make me more of an unbeliever than any exjw website.
First off, I don't believe in Adam & Eve or Satan. However, if the bible was true, here's my reasoning:
If Adam and Eve were truly "free agents," then even though Satan lied to them, the fact that they were free agents means that THEY were responsible for all the imperfection and death. They were the murderers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.
to funny nice job....
The guy yelling "Look me up on Facebook!" plays into the perception that Apostates try to gather followers after themselves.
The douchebaggery in these tactics is extremely high.
Even as a teenager/early 20's I would have just laughed and shook my head at the stupid idiot apostate and then go back to passing the wine and bread. I used the internet (Yahoo, Excite, then Google) to look for everything and NEVER looked up apostate websites intentionally.
You're free to use whatever tactics you want, no matter how idiotic they are. Just understand, when idiotic tactics like this are used, it does way more harm to the cause than good.
The ends do not justify the means. Subtle tactics work best. Even the elders recognize that a subtle apostate is more dangerous than an overt moron apostate like the ones in this video.
One time I discussed a guy I thought was an apostate with my father who has been an Elder for more than 33 years, PO & COBE for 30 of them. He said, "How do you know?" I told him, "Well, he's probably not. There's nothing I can put my finger on. Just really subtle things." He then gave me the gist of the statement above about subtle apostasy being more dangerous and damaging to the congregation than other forms.
So, in summation, I guess what I'm trying to say is don't be a huge douche and do similar things to what was portrayed in this video. You'll have far more success just asking questions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fopapex6vzs#t=187 .
if only we had such a parody for the watchtower.
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In case you missed it, here's the original video they're parodying.
http://www.freep.com/story/entertainment/arts/2015/04/04/art-detroit-festival-kresge/25266961/.
carl wilson's "the flow of water," for example, is a 6-minute animated film in a surreal visual language that tells the story of a woman struggling to find herself.
it's a parable for wilson's own experience, breaking free from the strictly controlled life he lived for 30 years as a jehovah's witness.. buy photoartist carl wilson with part of an installation he is working on at the carr center in detroit.
Awesome. Good for him!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.
to funny nice job....
So, I was reserving judgement until I could actually watch the video.
Just as I suspected, a bunch of dummies thinking they're doing something good, when in reality, they're just making the JWs think they must be further into the time of the end because of persecution.
I would venture to guess that 90% of us became apostate not due to some stupid stunt like this, but because we read something on the internet or someone introduced us to the information in a peaceable, reasonable way.
i recently developed an interest in examining the origins of religion.
so what i've gathered so far is this.
the human mind needs to create an explanation and meaning.
Yep. Spot on.
I've been thinking along these lines myself.
P.S.
Victor: this is your young buddy from way back when. Haven't had a chance to find that picture I was telling you about yet. Thanks for being there a few months ago when I was new to TTATT, e-mailed you and reached out. It really did help. The therapy has worked wonders, allowed me to open up to my wife and accept the consequences, whatever they would be. It turned out for the best, fortunately. Tested the waters a little with Dad. He'll never let go of it, even if he does see some of the problems. Dismisses it as imperfection. I just wanna shake him and say, "DON'T YOU SEE YOU'RE BEING DUPED?" I just don't think he can face the fact that he's wasted so much time and energy on this BS religion.
Thanks again for being there!
jws celebrate jesus death according to 1 corinthains 11.. fine.
once a year since it's on the jewish passover... fail... since thats tonight not last night but..... lets overlook that... jws from new zeland to london observed the memorial on april 2 by western clock... of course all in the western hemisphere did this on april 3rd wheevr the sun went down.
thus a domino effect in the jw congregations took place starting at the date line going back to the same spot 24 hours later..... well this is pathetic in many ways... if the jws worshipped in spirt and truth according to john 4 (i'm an atheist ... i don't care) they would observe on jerusalem's time zone according to the gospels and 1 corinthians... but they dont....
On modern calendars they mark the Passover on the correct day. However, Jewish days are from sunset to sunset. So this year, the Passover started Friday evening and lasted all day Saturday until sunset. That's why the Passover is marked as Saturday (this year) because the majority of the hours occur on that day. It's confising, but just think of sunset as the equivalent of our midnight. So no matter how idiotic JWs are, so long as they observed the occasion this year after sunset on Friday, they observed it on the correct date.
No matter what the time zone, the date is the date.
Theres plenty of other bullsh!t teachings to criticize them on. Let's at least use one that has some legs to stand on other than the timing of the memorial.
omg i've never read this before or if i did i never caught it... .
13 [a]if a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder,2 and the sign or the wonder comes true, concerning which he spoke to you, saying, let us go after other gods (whom you have not known) and let us serve them, 3 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams; for the lord your god is testing you to find out if you love the lord your god with all your heart and with all your soul.
4 you shall follow the lordyour god and fear him; and you shall keep his commandments, listen to his voice, serve him, and cling to him.
Jonathan Drake, I'm so proud of your progress (even though I had nothing to do with it).
You are a fine example of rationality