Lol Viviane. Maybe include some counter arguments in your post?
will-be-apostate
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Cosmos--any creationists watching? And what does EVEryONE think of it?
by Jon Preston ini just finished the episode about the extinctions and the tree of life and how life evolved.
my wife asked me "what, do u believe in evolution now?
because im watching a science show?
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Cosmos--any creationists watching? And what does EVEryONE think of it?
by Jon Preston ini just finished the episode about the extinctions and the tree of life and how life evolved.
my wife asked me "what, do u believe in evolution now?
because im watching a science show?
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will-be-apostate
I don't think creationists got it right, but I truly am starting to see that many evolutionists are just as arrogant and ignorant as creationists and other beleivers. Let them live their life and beleive what they want to.
It's the mere fact that many evolutionists and the media tres to make everyone accept their theories is what irritates me. Especially about the formation of planets, the Moon etc.... theories and "maybe"s upon "maybe"s, yet they say you are stupid and ignorant if you have other views. I'd bet that 50% of what we know today will be either proved wrong or altered.
I hope somebody understands my point.
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GB's letter regarding UN membership - How Do You Prove Them Wrong?
by will-be-apostate ini was reading brant jones' experience (published on jwfacts.com).
i read both letters: the one he wrote to the gb and the one he recieved from them.
link: http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/brantjonesunresponse.pdf.
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Those quotes from the magazines are absolutely priceless. I love them the most in comparison to other means of reasoning as it's like using their own weapon against them. I'm looking forward to try to apply your suggestions and thanks for your contribution to this thread. I hope it also helps other readers of the forum.
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What was the most rebellious thing you did while you were a devout jw?
by DuvanMuvan ini was just thinking about how humans being imperfect and satan's influence was the root of everything bad that anyone has ever done.
well i know that apparently everyone is vulnerable which got me thinking about what "bad" things people have done while they were a jw.
i'll start it off.
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@Dismissing servant: Great, till now I thought it's the borg's fault that I can't manage to get dates, but your experience suggests that I can't blame the folks from Brooklyn for my antisocial personality. Now, it's either my parents' fault or only mine. Anyway, I think you got it by now that I'm ***king envy you!
As an answer to the question being discussed, I can't recall any wrongdoings I commited during the years that I was in darkness.
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GB's letter regarding UN membership - How Do You Prove Them Wrong?
by will-be-apostate ini was reading brant jones' experience (published on jwfacts.com).
i read both letters: the one he wrote to the gb and the one he recieved from them.
link: http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/brantjonesunresponse.pdf.
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will-be-apostate
Wow, thanks to all of you. Very good and clear points. I'm kinda shocked by that quote from the WT, hipocrisy indeed.
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GB's letter regarding UN membership - How Do You Prove Them Wrong?
by will-be-apostate ini was reading brant jones' experience (published on jwfacts.com).
i read both letters: the one he wrote to the gb and the one he recieved from them.
link: http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/brantjonesunresponse.pdf.
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will-be-apostate
I was reading Brant Jones' experience (published on jwfacts.com). I read both letters: the one he wrote to the GB and the one he recieved from them. Link: http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/brantjonesunresponse.pdf
In my mind, while reading the GB letter, I was trying to disprove them, their whole reasoning and point. I must say I'm dissapointed by myself as I realized I couldn't reason against them.
What could I say if I presented the facts about WTS's UN membership to a jw, and he'd in the same way the GB responded to Brant?
How would you respond to their letter?
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Noah the Film!!
by BU2B ini just noticed that the movie noah has been officially rated pg-13 in the us.
now all of the jws who were waiting anxiously to see if they could go see it will flock to see the movie.
i have heard a couple jws say "i hope it isnt rated r so i can go see it".
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Guess what Wasanelder, I'm excited too. If a movie is based on a book, I prefer it to stay as much close to the original story as it can. I never got why would screenwriters depict the ark the way they did, whereas the Bible describes quite in detail its shape and size etc.
I'll watch this movie not only because as a child I enjoyed the story of Noah but because I'm big fan of Russsel Crowe.
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Mr. Pierce...Mr. Pierce...Mr. Pierce... Mr. Guy Pierce
by confusedandalone ina few minuites ago talking to my sister who is finally seeing the watchtower for what it is and is scrutinizing it alot brought something to myu attention that troubled my longtime jw mother dearly.
she said after reading the article about the death of guy pierce she noticed that they never refered to him as brother pirce.
she said everytime they mentioned his name they refered to him as mr. pierce.. .
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will-be-apostate
I too noticed this thing. I feel like need to vomit when I remember that I used to look up to those men as if they were rockstars.
I might open up a champagne to celebrate his "retirement"
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How Were You Affected by All The Rules & Regulations From The Watchtower Society?
by minimus inthere are so many directives for elders, pioneers, ministerial servants and "publishers", it is mind boggling!!!.
to fulfill all of their expectaions, you would have to be perfect!.
i must say, that i really don't know how some do it, every day, ever week....i wonder how long some of the elders that frequent this board will still push the flock like the watchtower says they must..
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I can see how it affects my parents. Dad is literally in zombie mode: his life mainly consists of working, eating and keeping up with the wts standards for an ms. WHILE my step mother under the excuse of pioneering doesn't go to work, has time to play on his galaxy s (!), watches tv all the time and complains about the lack of money.
I literally have no non-jw relatives and I probably will never get out.
We didn't have internet until recently when there was a talk at the meeting about how we should keep up with technology and use the new jw.org site.
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Maybe moving! Need some advice
by Jon Preston inok so we might be moving to fl.
wife wants to get away to start over.
i also want to move but at the right time and to the right place.