Reading the example of this brother that lost EVERYTHING over such an insignificant issue… a Birthday Card…really?!...and he is being praised for being so reckless! I wonder if his 32 employees were impressed that they lost their job and their means to provide a living for their loved ones, because this clown made a stand over a Birthday Card. If he had a family, how did his wife or other dependants feel about his unilateral decision? What a complete LOSER! This religion is SO MESSED UP, it defies logic how the masses just can’t see it for what it is! I knew David Splane personally when he was a CO in Western Canada. I used to really look up to this guy; his talks were amazing...when I first heard he was appointed as a member of the GB, I thought maybe he would bring about positive change. Was I ever wrong, now he is as bad if not worse than his predecessors at the Watchtower Hilton!
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Special Talk Australia Branch Zone Visit, 22nd April 2012.
by Bangalore inhe was, from shoulders up, taller than any other man (1 samuel 10:23) david's brother, eliab too was tall (1 samuel 16:6).
(1 samuel 17:26) .
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6/15 WT - WT Society can Run it's Business - but JW's Can't Have their Own
by flipper inin the typical do as we say , not as we do type mentality - the wt society puts forth in this current wt study article ( jw's only wt ) - that it's not " advisable " or " reasonable " for jehovah's witnesses to seek entering their own business ventures , or further themselves by getting a college education, or even have a career - due to the imminent coming of the alleged " end of the system " or alleged " paradise " .
the guilt and control used here is ridiculous.
in the article titled , " why put jehovah's service first ?
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As someone who is in a fade and trying desperately to rescue my dear wife from the BORG, I view articles like this as "good news" from a very selfish perspective. Just last week I showed her that comment in the current study article for this Sunday where it made a comment that “the Other Sheep should never forget that their salvation depends on their active support of Christ’s anointed brothers still on earth.” I asked her, do you believe that statement? She did not. Then I showed her that ridiculous comment for the week following regarding supressing fond memories and the WTS warning of “the good old days”. She was in a state of disbelief. Now I can show her this article to further help her realize like me and her children that the WTS is a complete farse. To the writing committee in Brooklyn-THANK YOU!
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This is making the witness email rounds...Anyone believe them?
by Botzwana indoes jehovah know what is going on, and does he help?.
(as told by bro.
spangenberg, c.o.
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All of these so-called miracle stories are fabricated and distorted. I recall when I served as an elder the C.O. would ask for local experiences and not once was it ever requested to ensure the experience could be verified or authenticated. That is why you get all these exaggerated stories because nobody ever takes measures to verify these accounts. And the WT has the audacity to put down Wikipedia because anyone can contribute to these posts without credentials etc. How is it any worse with these B.S. stories that are propagated by the WTS, its representatives and the R&F? It doesn’t end there. Think of all the experiences you hear at assemblies from people that you know personally boasting about themselves which you for a fact know is absolute B.S. Or these ridiculous stories of how Jehovah helped a brother find a better job with twice the pay because he refused to miss his district convention or helped another find a well-paying part time job so they could pioneer, yet would not intervene and stop the crazed maniac Anders Breivik from slaughtering close to 70 innocent people-most of them children. If this is the M.O. of God, regardless of who he is…I want nothing to do with him!
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I could have gone-got the invite. (shocker) Instead I went to rock concert. I could have gone to take notes at this ridiculous pep rally but I am SO HAPPY I made better use of my time!
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Kingdom Hall remodel - scam
by Dagney ini was wondering from any here in the know, does it seem like there is a lot of "remodels" going on?.
in the last week i had the occasion to talk with two jw's in different halls, about 10 miles apart.
they both are undergoing major remodels.
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Darth frosty...Our last Circuit Assembly there were about 800 people and the total costs incurred were close to 10k for a paid off assembly hall! Many people say it goes into reserve for upgrades, renovations etc.; B.S. they campaigned for $$ when they built a new steel perimeter fence and other improvements. It is such a scam-how shameless!
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I Had a Dream!
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iclone
Last night I had the most vivid dream. I dreamt I woke up in 1960, I sought out my parents and when I finally convinced them that I was their son from the future (nothing like carrying around an iPAD in circa 1960) I then tried to convince my parents to leave the JW religion. After much deliberation they both exclaimed that if I came back from the year 2012 and the system is still going on, then the best thing to do is walk away now! I was so elated!
Can you imagine what that would be like for all of us long time born ins. If only we could accomplish such a feat, what a dramatically different life we could have lead without constant fear and loathing our fellow man just because they did not go to the Kingdom Hall. The fact remains that all we can really do is make life as meaningful as possible with the reduced amount of time we have left on this earth. Remember the closing minutes of Titanic when it revealed all the adventures and fulfilling life Rose went on to live? That is how I feel, before I depart this earth I want to live everyday like it is my last and it WILL NOT BE carrying on this double life any longer. Maybe this dream was a message from my subconscious to let it go and stop trying to please everybody. Will people be hurt and shocked? Without a doubt; I have made up my mind that it is time to start living (more movie plagiarism). Now all I need to decide is not if but when I make my final exit from this farce known as “the Truth”! Rest assured it will be coming soon.
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You Might be a Jehovah's Witness if . . .
by sizemik inyou might be a jehovah's witness if .
you know when nisan 14 is but you forget you own birthday.
you wash windows for a living but you own five suits.
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iclone
Whenever you have a dinner party you feel compelled to invite a single sister, widow/widower or some other odd ball in the congregation not because you actually give a crap about them but rather you want to be known in the congregation as "hospitable", regardless of how insincere you are!
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I am speechless over the latest tactic to get people to Pioneer!
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It is also worth mentioning that although my wife has consistently pioneered in years past including last year, she is NOT going to pioneer this year! On the drive home from the meeting as we were discussing my conversation with this elder and their tactics and she just came out and said she is not going to pioneer. You have no idea how happy that made me when she uttered those words.
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I am speechless over the latest tactic to get people to Pioneer!
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Rules and Regulations...my thoughts exactly, I am not exemplary by any means. I guess once it is signed it goes to the Service Committee Tribunal and they decide if your name is worthy to be read from the coveted platform.
Ding…my wife said it was complete BS! She is slowly seeing the organization for what it is, like I said before her entire social circle revolves around the congregation but things are definitely improving. Slow and steady.
NRFG…I agree with you man. BTW I did discuss my report or lack thereof with our SO as he was puzzled over my lack of activity and went on a rant about reports, going as far as saying the bible set a precedent for compiling reports. I told him the only record reported in the bible was the number of individuals baptized! Show me anywhere in the bible in any translation where the emphasis was on the hours, rv’s etc. not to mention recording placements of literature all the forgoing is the emphasis of the WT not the number of individuals baptised. I also asked him why the WT does not put in print the number of individuals DF’d , because if they are going to include everything else this would also be a relevant statistic. Have you ever read a financial statement where the business losses or write offs were excluded? I think not!
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I am speechless over the latest tactic to get people to Pioneer!
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Last night I reluctantly attended the meeting. I don't go very often but as you have seen in previous posts, I go occasionally to keep peace with my wife. Last night this elder hands me two Auxiliary Pioneer Forms with mine and my wife’s name filled in already. (BTW the app was preprinted with a laser printer so they put allot of thought into this scam) I asked him, "What is this?" He replied that because so many pioneered last year that the BOE decided to make it easier by filling them in for everyone and whoever wants to pioneer can just sign it, we are anxious to read off as many names as we can during the Service Meeting tonight. (BARF)
I handed the forms back to him without saying a word. He just stood there with a stunned look on his face. During the meeting I was brewing in anger, my wife did manage to calm me down and talked me out of leaving. I am glad I did stay as you will see.
After the meeting he apologized if he offended me in any way. I told him that there is far too much emphasis on getting people to put in their; what I call “T HE DIRTY THIRTY” no matter what! (he actually chuckled) I then quoted 2 Cor 9:7 in part where it says that each of us would do what is in our heart not..., then I said "should I finish the scripture or should you?" He just looked puzzled. I then continued...”not grudgingly or under compulsion, this method you guys are using is absolutely disgusting; talk about a cheesy ploy to get the publishers to sign this form…shame on you guys. What is this, some sort of contest between other congregations?”
He did agree with me that I made some good points and that perhaps they were too hasty and thanked me for my candor. He is one of the more humble elders that I got along with very well when I served. I wonder if this was concocted by the BOE or if this is a directive from the branch or maybe an overzealous CO? In any event I found the whole thing absolutely shameless!