Posts by NotBlind

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Speech Counsel Point - TIMING

by Mister Biggs in

theocratic ministry school (tms) pet peeve of mine is found below.

please feel free to add any that you find as annoying and hypocritical as mine.... last night, brother gramaton* delivered the # 2 talk (bible reading).

he received all of this "wonderful, upbuilding" counsel from brother hank*, the school overseer.

I was in a congregation where they used to call TIME at the end of the 5 minutes. Then the poor speaker had to get off the stage. Why don't they call time of some of those long-winded service meeting parts, if timing is so important to them?? It sounds like a double standard to me: members of the JW clergy get to talk as long as they please....

OH WAIT!!! JW's don't have a clergy!! LOL

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Cleaning for Assemblies

by terafera in

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by hank schaller, of the oakland press june 09, 2002 .

when it comes to being a house of worship, the pontiac silverdome has a long history.

it has served as a site of a papal mass by pope john paul ii, a crusade by evangelist billy .

NotBlind

Well, considering the fact that possibly hundreds of thousands (even a million?) of JW's are janitors, window-washers, and cleaners, it would be a disgrace if they DIDN'T leave the place super-clean! Of course, I too shied away from the cleaning section; I was too busy peeling out of the parking lot to get to the hotel...

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Memorable Prayers meetings / assemblies???

by invisible in

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any outstanding prayers that you can remember / recall?.

we had one brother here who was renowned for his very long prayers, sometimes running to as much as 15 minutes in length.

congregational members would have to leave halfway through to catch taxi's etc, he was a dear old soul though, in his younger days before he kicked the bucket, he was a wheelwright, probaly one of the last of his particular craft, repairing horse drawn carriages.. another brother at the convention was known for the shortest prayer, he just said thankyou 3 times and that was it.. once we had the co visiting, george hilton his name was, cheerful old sod from yorkshire, it was the aux pio and reg pio meeting.

NotBlind

Clapping on the last talk at a DC, oh yes....

One year the audience was doing the clap-a-thon thing, practically after every sentence the guy said. Then, the speaker stated something to the effect that "300 JW's have been imprisoned in such-and-such a country". And, like robots on command, the audience applauded that...

Makes me want to jump up and SCREAM

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My Sister's At Bethel Right Now

by bluesapphire in

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wonder if she'll have to be face to face with the three new york articles that came out today.. i'm crossing my fingers and praying.

she's a sociologist (believe it or not) and knows about social issues.

just that she says "talk to the hand" whenever anything is negative about dubs.. but this -- this she wont be able to ignore.

NotBlind

Tell her to ask Lyman Swingle about how he feels about Ray Franz!!

Too bad Lyman's dead...

I wonder what he would have said, though...

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Bill Bowen Was Just on WPSD-TV

by NotBlind in

i just saw bill bowen on a television spot on wpsd tv out of paducah, kentucky.

they stated that bill will be defending himself against charges of "causing divisions" in the jw church.. bill stated that he 'still considers himself a jw in good standing and wishes to remain that way'.

also, the anchors made mention of bill's website, even giving his url.

NotBlind

plmkrzy:
Since the story was a local one done by the local affiliate, it probably won't run in other areas. Dateline, of course, will be aired nationwide.

The story was aired again at 10:00, but in an abbreviated format. This time, though, an interesting tidbit was added. The report stated that Bill 'expects to be excommunicated'.

It should be interesting to see what the media says, oh, Saturday, after the kangaroo court meets. I'm curious to see what the public backlash will be if people find out the WTS throws out people who try to blow the whistle on child molesters.

The WTS is making a huge mistake - I can only imagine what the P.R. department in Brooklyn is thinking right now - they're probably having a hemorrhage over what's about to burst forth...

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4 Reasons Why WTS is Doomed

by metatron in

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reason #1 they are losing (if not lost already) the next.

generation of young witnesses.

leading a double life.

NotBlind

Over the last five years, it seems like the WTS just can't get people excited like they used to. When they used to say "let's all Auxiliary Pioneer!" people actually used to get excited about it. Not anymore.

When they used to say "Attend all the meetings cuz they're all important and interesting!" people used to obey. Not anymore. They don't give a rip about going to the Isaiah book study or going to the WT study so they can parrot back the answers that were just read to them.

When the WT used to say "Go out in service every weekend - both Saturday and Sunday!" people used to do it. Not anymore. Around here, just a handful show up on Saturday. And people couldn't care less about going door-knocking on Sundays.

People are getting tired of it. People have to work 40+ hours a week, and the WT higher-ups just don't get it. When they see a C.O. who has his big swanky car bought & paid for by the brothers roll into town and criticize the R&F for not going out in service more and for not presenting the offer for the month, the people get tired. Sick and tired.

The WT will always have some die-hards, but so will Fascism. Uh, hold on, is that redundant?

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Bill Bowen Was Just on WPSD-TV

by NotBlind in

i just saw bill bowen on a television spot on wpsd tv out of paducah, kentucky.

they stated that bill will be defending himself against charges of "causing divisions" in the jw church.. bill stated that he 'still considers himself a jw in good standing and wishes to remain that way'.

also, the anchors made mention of bill's website, even giving his url.

NotBlind

I just saw Bill Bowen on a television spot on WPSD TV out of Paducah, Kentucky. They stated that Bill will be defending himself against charges of "causing divisions" in the JW church.

Bill stated that he 'still considers himself a JW in good standing and wishes to remain that way'. Also, the anchors made mention of Bill's website, even giving his URL. OH, and another thing, they also stated that Dateline NBC will be running the show about JW molesters 'soon'.

The media is taking note... The public will be taking note...
Will the Witnesses?

If anyone in Southern Illinois, Western Kentucky, Southeast Missouri, or Northwest Tennessee can watch or tape this spot (I think it will be on again at 10), please do...

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Public Talks

by radar in

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public talks .

here is a list of talks that was spoon fed to the congregation in 1998.. for some reason there was no talk number 100 back then.. but can you spot which talk that is missing from the list, the one that should have never been missing from the list for jws?

it is still not on the list even today.. and do you know why?

NotBlind

Sorry guys, but you need to update your list...

This list is about 5 years old. There is a talk 100, and there is a talk about blood.

#100 - True Love for God and Neighbor
#135 - The Sanctity of Life and Blood.

I'll give you the names for #125 through #152 when I can find them.

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Stop counting time

by Elsewhere in

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most jws are guilted/coerced into going into the ministry by the time requirements.

i can't help but wonder how much time the average jw would spend in the ministry work if the time requirements were dropped.. i know that the only reason i went into field service was because i didnt want the elders coming and counseling me... that was until i figured out how to use theocratic warfare on my time sheet.

any thoughts on this?.

NotBlind

Out of the billion or so hours 'put in' by the dub pubs, how many of it is actually spent in their ministry? I bet most pad their figures, at least a little bit.

And to answer the question, if they quit turning in time slips, I wouldn't go out banging on doors. And that's why WTS will always require it, even tho' it isn't Scriptural.