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Financial Condition of America & Abortion Data

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It is just hard to imagine how anyone can be so disconnected that they are unable to relate sympathetically to a little baby gasping for air as his throat is cut and his still thinking head is tossed into a garbage can. This is uncomfortable reality. That little headless body could be any one of us...... experiencing the ultimate disfellowshipping at the hands of those that are supposed to care. Just google partial bith abortion if you are tough enough to deal with reality.

Those that escape partial birth abortion, may get injected with solution that burns them in their mothers belly, or worse.

Unborn babies aren't people? Guess you wont have a problem with baby soup. http://womanoftheearth.blogspot.com/2008/05/shocking-news-fetus-soup-being-served.html - Warning Shocking Images.

Then there are the incredibly few that survive abortion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5PlZzpfHQI

"Melissa explained a saline-solution abortion involves the injection of a caustic saline solution into the amniotic fluid surrounding the baby. "It scalds the child from the outside, peeling the layers of skin until the solution reaches the organs." There is also a chemical in the solution that forces the expulsion of the baby.

She described that babies subjected to this type of abortion usually have a "candy apple" reddish appearance from the burning of the skin. But not Melissa.

Once she was delivered, the medical team placed the aborted baby on a table. Left for dead, Melissa was ignored while attention was given to her biological mother.

"It was when I was grunting, actually gasping for air, that a nurse noticed I wasn't dead. It was this team that sustained my life."

"Children like me are born every day," she said, noting many are not as fortunate as further measures like submersion in buckets of water or placement in freezers are in place to ensure the termination of life. "

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Paul's Out-Of-Body Experience - How did we Miss This?

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the watchtower teaches that there is no such thing as a spirit or soul leaving the body that can consciously experience anything in heaven unless you are annointed and you die.

and the body certainly couldn't go in their view.

however the apostle paul plainly taught otherwise.

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Very, very interesting. Apparently it is a technical state or condition that exists when a person is having a spiritual connection via some sort of a transe.

For someone who isn't born again, this is impossible to really truly grasp. Paul meant literally what he said. There is no need to invoke Philo of Alexander (the father of spiritualizing everything) who was an unsaved jewish philosopher. He could know nothing about the new birth and the new spirit.

This is what all the business with circumcision pictured. In the new birth event, the old spirit is cut away in the dividing of soul and spirit and a new spirt, one made alive and quickened from God is installed.

It exists right along side the sinful body. This is a never-before-seen creation in the universe.

Gal 2:20I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creation: - 2 Cor. 5: 17

But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, says the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer. 31:33

The installation of a new spirit that is truly alive and incapable of perishing is simply the fulfillment of God's previous promises.... originally intended for Israel, but they didn't want it. Paul was surprised and didn't really know what to make of praying in tongues because while it really was his spirit praying....his fleshly mind didn't comprehend the meanings. So, he just decided that while that was going on, he'd just go ahead and pray with his fleshly mind as well.

1 Cor. 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. 15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also:

Millions of people have experienced this exact same phenomenon after they invited Jesus into their heart (spirit). I know lots of folks who have.

Apparently, the new spirit is also capable of being in a different place than the body and yet, both are actually "you".

This is all a very far cry from the heralds of Brooklyn, and yet it is right there in the New Testament bible plain as day.

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Financial Condition of America & Abortion Data

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Abortion on demand is about murder. It is the grossest violation of human rights humanity has ever seen.

The issue is far from over. I for one will lift my voice for those too little to speak for themselves. Heartless supporters can't even muster enough sympathy to ban abortions where the perfectly healthy baby is attacked with knives when his head emerges. It is disgusting, and horrifying. These of course are the same voices that say hell is inconsistent with a loving God. Eye for an eye. Thank God for Jesus who saves us from ourselves.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/nov/1/pruden-a-little-cloud-in-mississippi/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+delicious%2Fgqlf+%28Christian+Headlines+Top+Headlines%29

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Inactive, yet shunned!

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my dad (49) (who was an elder for 10 year and hasnt been to the meetings now since april when i stopped going) sent a message to a younger unbaptised brother (19) in my congregation to see if they would like to get together and jam on their guitars.

the younger brother responded that he would like to but since my dad hasnt been to the meetings in a long time he feels its innapropriate.. needless to say my dad was a little pi**ed but at the same time he cant understand how he is also now being shunned despite the fact that he isnt even disfellowshipped.

why do these people show such conditional love when jesus taught the absolute opposite?.

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"Inactive" means "weak" - some may want to help you get stronger, others may avoid you so the ilk doesn't get on their nice clothes. Now, as long as a person keeps his mouth shut and takes whatever bones are thrown to him, a few will acknowledge the existence of a "weak" one from time to time.

Then there are those that really like to talk about truth - that's when you cross the line and become an apostate..... someone very, very dangerous and not weak at all.

Most people are very easily manipulated into doing just about anything, that's just the sad reality of the human condition.

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A Moment Of Truth For 'Illuminati' Types!

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sometimes i post here because i don't know where else i should post, as to odd or unusual ideas.

there seem to be quite a lot of people on the internet who zealously believe that the world is covertly ruled by some conspiracy or masonic lodge or bilderberg group or intelligent reptiloid aliens who dress up as the british royal family ( i imagine an alien complaining, 'why do i have to be queen elizabeth?').

in other words, a bunch of powerful people who control everything.. well, it seems to me that we are approaching a moment in which we will see just how much control any such group really has.

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There seem to be quite a lot of people on the internet who zealously believe that the world is covertly ruled by some conspiracy.

Isn't this what we all used to believe as Witnesses? This is what mainstream Christians believe. I think many Muslims think that the Jews are somehow behind a global scheme. It's a common view for lots of folks, although the culprits differ..

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Without faith it is impossible to please Him . . . Hebrews 11:6

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without faith it is impossible to please him .

hebrews 11:6. .

jw's immediately interpret this scripture to mean faith in the watchtower.

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I guess it's the reults I get, and I know that it makes God happy.

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Paul's Out-Of-Body Experience - How did we Miss This?

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the watchtower teaches that there is no such thing as a spirit or soul leaving the body that can consciously experience anything in heaven unless you are annointed and you die.

and the body certainly couldn't go in their view.

however the apostle paul plainly taught otherwise.

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The Watchtower teaches that there is no such thing as a spirit or soul leaving the body that can consciously experience anything in heaven unless you are annointed and you die. And the body certainly couldn't go in their view. However the apostle Paul plainly taught otherwise. I don't even remember this scripture when I was a witness. Anybody else deal with this one while you were active?

2 Corinthians 12

The Vision of Paradise

1 It is doubtless [a] not profitable for me to boast. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord: 2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago—whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows—such a one was caught up to the third heaven. 3 And I know such a man—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows— 4 how he was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words,

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Where is hell?

by StopTheTears in

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<voluntarily removed.>.

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No need to take it down Stop the Tears. Have you ever seen this chart by Clarence Larkin?

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41,000 year old human jaw bone found

by Mickey mouse in

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but but but....humans have only been around for 6000 years.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15540464.

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‘ But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female ’ ( Mark 10:6 ).

In these words of Jesus we find He teaches that Adam and Eve were created in ‘ the beginning of the creation ’—not billions of years later.

I'm not sure why I never caught this while in the organization. I think most JW's believe (as I did) that the earth could be billions of years old but only man is ~ 6000 years old.

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Giving public talk, need some help!

by Silent_Scream in

a very close friend of mine is giving a public talk around may about the bible.

he asked me to help him out (of course not knowing where i stand with everything).

a perfect opportunity!

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This would be an excellent topic for Kingdon Hall Consumption. I think some would actually make the connection to their own situation.

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Are the Scriptures Sufficient?

The Roman Catholic Church says that the Bible is materially sufficient but not formally sufficient. Materially sufficient means that everything the Christian needs to believe is found in Scripture. Formally sufficient means that in order to understand the Bible, the Roman Catholic Church has to interpret it. The problem here is that this position subjects the Bible to Roman Catholic interpretations and essentially makes Catholic sacred tradition superior to scripture1 -- since it declares that the Bible can't be understood except through the Catholic Church's Magisterium. Since we don't see doctrines such as worship of Mary, prayer to Mary, her immaculate conception, purgatory, penance, etc., found in Scripture (material sufficiency), we must naturally ask if the Roman Catholic view of formal sufficiency is correct. It isn't.

The inspired word of God, the Scriptures, make statements about its own sufficiency.

2 Tim. 3:16-17 , "All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; 17 that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work."

Let's take a look at the Greek. The word "inspired" is qeovpneustos (theopneustos) and it means literally, "God breathed." This means that God was the one working through people, breathing through them his words. The Scriptures, therefore, are perfect and without error because they come from God. Paul continues and says that these Scriptures are profitable for teaching, for proof, for correction, and for training in righteousness. In verse 17 he explains that this is so the Christian may be adequate, equipped for every good work. The word artios (artios) is defined as follows:

"complete, capable, proficient, able to meet all demands."2
"complete, perfect of its kind, suitable, exactly fitted"3
"complete, perfect. 2a having reference apparently to "special aptitude for given uses."4

So, we see from three sources that explain the Greek that Paul is telling us that the Scriptures are "complete, capable, proficient, able to meet all demands, exactly fitted, etc." This is fine, but Paul continues to tell us that this so we might understand that by studying the Scriptures, we will be adequately equipped for every good work.

The Greek word for "equipped" is ejxhrtismevno" (exartismenos) and it means, "having been finished, fully equipped":

"equip, furnish. " 5
"to be thoroughly prepared or furnished."6
"to complete, finish. 1a to furnish perfectly. 1b to finish, accomplish."7

We can then see that we are equipped for every good work. Every good work is explained in the previous verse as teaching, reproof, correction, and training in righteousness. This means that the Bible is sufficient for all of these things. This naturally includes the teaching of doctrine because teaching correct doctrine is a good work by which we reprove, correct, and train. Furthermore, this means that we don't need sacred tradition to teach, reprove, correct, and train in righteousness because the Scriptures are what is sufficient for this.