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Comments from a real JW about the killing of apostates watchtower. You will be shocked..
by Hairyhegoat inthis is a very good find from another jw only web site i have access to... hey i just found this on a link of my mom's that she is "friends" with, yes, still a jw...anyway, i had to copy/paste it so you could all see, thought it was a bit hilarious to see how they blatantly speak of keeping info from "outsiders.
" i did not copy the name of the person since that is not my point and i am not that disrespectful, but i did copy their comment...they were discussing the wt about killing all apostates and someone that was studying asked a question as to whether they all thought that was right or not, so here it is..............."james... although its a great article and very encouraging, as apostates do deserve to be murdered, it may not be such a good idea to reveal it our friend zeek at this moment.
he may find it a tad over the top.
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My only own regret when I left
by Joey Jo-Jo inmy parents are still witnesses, i read coc, isocf and conceptoc, then decided not to attend meetings.. i told them everything i knew about what was written and this pushed them away from me and further into the "truth", we still talk like a normal family but when a topic merges that i speak about jw's i get shunned, they don't comment.
i didn't understand why they continued to believe after i mentioned gb voting system, un, and others, i also mentioned about ray franz and what the bible really says, dad asked me why not i just join his (ray's) religion since i know so much.. i knew about hassans books but didn't see them necessary at the time, but i didn't understand why they are acting this way.
i just finished releasing the bonds, now i understand why they acted the way they did and why they didn't listen, my only regret was not reading this and combating cult mind control earlier.. so we were all brought up in the truth, all my family members are in the truth, during the years they were taught not to think anything negative about the religion - that's how you loose part of your critical thinking skills (remenber how the brothers kept remind of how happy we all are.).
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I said things that for them seemed that I wanted them to change to another religion when in fact it's general Christianity. - I should have been more careful and shown 'd my motives to be out of true love-true love overcomes conditional love.
This is the first response I got from my family years ago as well. My mother asked me if I was going to start my own church. I was shocked because I could see that she was more than half serious.
A better tack may be to ask the JW to explain from the scriptures how they can get their sins forgiven since Jesus isn't their Mediator, they are not justified, and they are not born again. All acknowledged by the Watchtower and yet; required for Salvation in the New Testament.
If a person avoids critizing the Watchtower altogether, and just sticks to salvation ... it may delay the inevitable for a while longer.
Anyway, don't beat yourself up. Sooner of later you will be directly challenged as to your loyalty to Christ or to the WT. When you choose Christ it is the same to them as you choosing the devil.
My only regret, having had time to evualate all the gains and losses is that I only had one dearly loved family to say good-bye to.
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JWs and Jesus
by lilbluekitty inas many of you already know, i was raised in the "truth", 3rd generation on my mother's side, 5th or something on my dad's side so i've been a jw for a long time, not so much now.. anyway, those of you who either spent a long time in the religion or who actually came from a regular christian religion first or became one later, did any of you notice how jws feel about jesus?
though they're supposed to be "true" christians, they don't talk about christ much or don't talk about his sacrifice much.
i know jws (and i) don't believe in the trinity but what's wrong with being more thankful to him for what he did for us?
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I dedicated myself to Jehovah four years earlier (I have anxiety problems so I didn't get baptized right away) but if I want to be a Christian do I need to dedicate my life to God and Christ? I'm not sure.
You must be born again. That is what Jesus told Nicodemus.
When you get born again you get a new spirit... and a new destiny.
Romans 8
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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Spong: "Why We Must Reclaim The Bible From Fundamentalists"
by leavingwt injohn shelby spong, the retired american bishop, has written a new book.
his article, below, briefly explains the purpose of his new book.
why we must reclaim the bible from fundamentalists.
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I wonder if eye-witnesses like Peter, James and John considered thenselves as fundamentalists or intellectuals? A few backwards fishermen started a global movement by inviting people to love their enemies, abandon themselves, and worship a bloodied disfigured crucified man who said he was God and proved it.
No one could make this stuff up. It is the unlikliest of all possible stories. What is there to reclaim? It is what it is. Why change it?
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Without faith it is impossible to please Him . . . Hebrews 11:6
by wordfamine.com inwithout faith it is impossible to please him .
hebrews 11:6. .
jw's immediately interpret this scripture to mean faith in the watchtower.
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Without faith it is impossible to please Him . . . —Hebrews 11:6
JW's immediately interpret this scripture to mean faith in the Watchtower. I am still amazed at how I never separated the object of my faith between faith in God as opposed to faith in a church. The kind of faith that we had [in an organization] was tangible, seemingly logical, and was able to be seen with the physical eyes on the pages of the printed materials. It was a pseudo-intellectual faith.
However, it never dawned on me that Christians "walk by faith and not by sight".
I found this snippet from Oswald Chambers to have unique relevance to my JW experience:
Nothing that Jesus Christ ever said is common sense, but is revelation sense, and is complete, whereas common sense falls short. Yet faith must be tested and tried before it becomes real in your life. “We know that all things work together for good . . .” (Romans 8:28) so that no matter what happens, the transforming power of God’s providence transforms perfect faith into reality. Faith always works in a personal way, because the purpose of God is to see that perfect faith is made real in His children.
For every detail of common sense in life, there is a truth God has revealed by which we can prove in our practical experience what we believe God to be. Faith is a tremendously active principle that always puts Jesus Christ first. The life of faith says, “Lord, You have said it, it appears to be irrational, but I’m going to step out boldly, trusting in Your Word” (for example, see Matthew 6:33). Turning intellectual faith into our personal possession is always a fight, not just sometimes. God brings us into particular circumstances to educate our faith, because the nature of faith is to make the object of our faith very real to us. Until we know Jesus, God is merely a concept, and we can’t have faith in Him. But once we hear Jesus say, “He who has seen Me has seen the Father” (John 14:9) we immediately have something that is real, and our faith is limitless. Faith is the entire person in the right relationship with God through the power of the Spirit of Jesus Christ.
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Embarrassed As A Witness
by EmptyInside ineven as a witness,i was uncomfortable talking about everything we believed.
i remember working with my brother out and service and he found an interested person.
my brother was sharing information out of the bible teach book.
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I was at one particular door when the Christian lady informed me that most Christians believed that they would be coming back with Christ [after they died and went to heaven] to rule over/in a paradise earth. She turned to the standard Rev. scriptures to prove her point.
I walked away feeling cheated from her stealing my thunder. Then I was just embarrassed for being in a religion that asssumes everyone else but them are ignorant, unread, hypocrits.
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JWs and Jesus
by lilbluekitty inas many of you already know, i was raised in the "truth", 3rd generation on my mother's side, 5th or something on my dad's side so i've been a jw for a long time, not so much now.. anyway, those of you who either spent a long time in the religion or who actually came from a regular christian religion first or became one later, did any of you notice how jws feel about jesus?
though they're supposed to be "true" christians, they don't talk about christ much or don't talk about his sacrifice much.
i know jws (and i) don't believe in the trinity but what's wrong with being more thankful to him for what he did for us?
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LBK,
I can identify with your situation. I was a born-in 4th gen on Mom's side and 3rd gen of Dad's side. The lack of prominence given to Jesus was one of the initial red flags for me. Jesus said "ALL authority has been given me in heaven". I asked my mom once if we shouldn't be making some kind of a deal with Jesus if that is the case. I was told not to speak about such things.
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Just Got Finish Talking To JWs At My Door
by Philadelphia Ponos init was two older ladies who had me read john 17:3 and than gave me the october 1st watchtower which reads on the front "five lies about god exposed!".
i didn't "go apostate" or tell them i'm inactive.
i prefer to do that when i get the return visit from the brother they plan on giving my info to.
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Yes, that should spice things up a little. My wife entertained two publishers at our door the other day and I was disappointed that I wasn't there to talk to them as well.