cut the cord.
sever all ties.
start new.. and she's right.
@ Jerome Harris
"We ourselves made the decision to join that organization and we should take responsibility for the decision we made".
Clearly, you are not taking into account the vast majority of JWs like myself who were born to parents who gave us no real choice not to join. If I wanted to receive the love of a family including grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins etc. it was mandatory that I I join. What responsibility does a 12 year old take?
do you remember how the wt society likes to quote the scriptures that say "the love of the greater number will cool off" in "the last days" and men will have "no natural affection"?
they applied this to "worldly people".
even before my exit i, used to think that scripture applied to members of the "christian congregation" too.. i haven't written to my jw mil in about a year and a half.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3y0cd2cocs.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3y0cd2cocs.
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i think i've seen it all now.
nothing surprises me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpfzs7l_3sq.
When I was a little kid in the '50s there was a choir that sang between sessions at the DCs. I really enjoyed seeing and hearing their performances and looked forward to the day I would be old enough to join.
Well, just my luck the choir thing was scrapped. Next on the chopping block was the orchestra then eventually the piano players. The Watchtower has changed its mind on live music almost as much as it has on doctrines.
how much do they get for their 120 hours of door banging?
before i get the "no it was not, because god does not exist and this is a writing of man", i am directing this discussion to those that either still believe, or need as many tools as possible to talk to a family member still in.. the purpose of my posting is to discuss what i believe to be a mistake on this book or, in the other hand, be corrected if i am not getting the entire picture.. in the book, chapter 19 "god's wisdon in a sacred secret", paragraph 10, it reads.... 10 second, the law thoroughly demonstrated mankinds need for a ransom.
a perfect law, it exposed the inability of sinful humans to adhere to it fully.
compare this with hebrews 7:11-12. jesus a priest like melchizedek11now if perfection was through the levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the people received the law), what further need was there for another priest to arise according to the order of melchizedek, and not be designated according to the order of aaron?
When I was still a believer my answer would have been the Law was perfect in itself but could not provide everlasting life to its followers. Jesus ransom "bought out" that covenant/contract with his perfect life and in addition added the bonus of eternal life.
i'm looking for some clever comebacks.
i really don't care that i am an apostate, but would like to deliver a quick comeback or two to perhaps make the other person think.
any suggestions most welcome.
Outlaw, LOL
When I was accused I answered, "The Bible says 'Do not put your trust in nobles or earthling man.' I don't anymore."
i have read the site with great interest over the last few weeks.
some interesting stuff thats for sure.. i have left the jehovah's witnesses (was almost going to say the 'truth') for some time now.
i was one of the lucky ones that was baptised then faded, no humiliating disfellowshipping but nonetheless was very hard to get myself out.
Welcome! I like your user name. When I was very young WTBT$ regularly accused Christendom of "watering down" the Truth from the Bible and bragged they did not and never would. Hahaha!
there are many things wrong with the world, many injustices and crimes committed.
what if we could stop one of them?
wouldn't it make the world a slightly better place?
@Sir Talon and the rest of the typing police,
There is no emoticon on this site for tearing my hair out !!!!!! For nearly 6 decades WT made the rules for me so now that I can exercise free will I feel rebellious?????!!!!! (I'll type the way I please, youse guy'es don't have to read it) Actually, It's because Armageddon was soooo close I never learned to properly type so cut us SOME slack.......................
