i've been doing a bit of self-questioning lately about moral issues.
one of the issues i've pondered is my reaction to the september 11th attacks.
i was feeling quite bloodthirsty.
Watching fox news last night heard that one of the threats that Washington is worried about is that terrorists will sail a nuke on a cargo ship up the east river and detonate between manhattan and brooklyn.
Freaky.
BTW, this is a difficult scenario for me to ponder since my parents live in North Jersey and I still have many friends and family in the area that would be directly affected.
Obie
i've been doing a bit of self-questioning lately about moral issues.
one of the issues i've pondered is my reaction to the september 11th attacks.
i was feeling quite bloodthirsty.
Reborn,
Thanks for your opinion. Mine is quite similar. I thought about it a little more later and decided that sudden death by nuke might indeed be a little too generous for the bastards!
Obie
hi from houston,.
after 2 months of investigating the wts, i have finally confirmend what my heart and mind told for a long time.
i have kept up with the post in here during that time, and i want to say thank you to all.
Wow, thanks for sharing bro! It's great to see how many new members are sharing their story with the rest of us. And great to see that the silentlambs issue is reaching many that have until now been beyond reach.
Obie
i've been doing a bit of self-questioning lately about moral issues.
one of the issues i've pondered is my reaction to the september 11th attacks.
i was feeling quite bloodthirsty.
Hi everyone,
I've been doing a bit of self-questioning lately about moral issues. One of the issues I've pondered is my reaction to the September 11th attacks. I was feeling quite bloodthirsty. I wanted revenge. For awhile I was hoping that the USA would wipe the Islamists off the planet or something. I've since backed off that view significantly. I know that in any kind of war action like that there would be many innocents killed. That led to thoughts about the morality of killing. Both from a secular and biblical standpoint there are cases that can be made for justified death of innocents. Israel had no problem going around killing caananites. Strict adherence to the Koran means extermination of the infidel. Most of us civilized people nowadays would express righteous indignation at the slaughter of any group of people.
All those big political and religious issues are standard issue topics of discussion. I thought of bringing the issue to this forum in the following way. How would you feel about the following scenario. Keep in mind I am not advocating this to happen, merely using the story as a thought experiment:
A substantial nuclear device is detonated by terrorists in lower Manhattan. Approximately 750 thousand perish instantly, including the entire population of Brooklyn Watchtower and the entire Governing Body which was in Brooklyn for a meeting.
Apart from the significant implications this would have in so many ways, I am particularly interested in how we apostates would feel about the JWs losing their leadership and much of their publishing capability. The kind, politically-correct voice in the back of my head tells me that I should not delight in that loss. However, due to some personal stuff I am hating the organization in a pretty bad way right now. So the sadistic side of me knows that I would take a dark pleasure in their demise.
Can any of you identify with these conflicting set of feelings that I have?
Obie
since so many are vehemently opposed to jehovah's witnesses, if it was in your power, would you simply outlaw the witnesses?
I'd eliminate the tax exemption for all religions immediately if I could. Not outlaw them.
Hit them where it hurts. Their money.
Taxation causes a couple of significant effects. Immediate impact by having to pay the government. Long-term effects their revenue will decline because people will donate less. Why pay more taxes than what you have to?
Giving religions tax exemption versus any other kind of social fellowship is ridiculous. I think all religions sucks.
Obie
sadly i was unable to attend the march.
last minute change of plans.
anyway, i was hoping that someone had links to news sites that covered the event.
Hi everyone,
Sadly I was unable to attend the march. Last minute change of plans. Anyway, I was hoping that someone had links to news sites that covered the event. I find it hard to believe that nobody has posted links to any coverage yet.
Obie
i'm going to be in nyc for the rally.
who may i look forward to meeting there?
please reply if you are going to be there.
bttt
it stands to reason that a reactionary organization must react.. so, the watchtower must do something to confront the rising tide of exposure.
and opposition that grows daily.. they react by lying, claiming persecution, shunning whistleblowers, downsizing,.
you threaten shunning.
metatron,
thanks man. you are consistently one of the best essayists on this site.
obie
i'm going to be in nyc for the rally.
who may i look forward to meeting there?
please reply if you are going to be there.
bttt .... c'mon, I know there's more of you that are going!
Obie
PS: Simon, if you see this, please move the thread to the Child Abuse forum. Thanks.
i'm going to be in nyc for the rally.
who may i look forward to meeting there?
please reply if you are going to be there.
Hi Everyone,
I'm going to be in NYC for the rally. Who may I look forward to meeting there? Please reply if you are going to be there. We should start making plans for activities in addition to the rally, like meals and entertainment.
Obie
