I agree with joe134cd....that's what I did about 7 years ago. Mouch of my family is still in....I don't want anything to interfere with my being able to have contact with my grandchildren. However, I have always thought I would take out a 'personal ad', or maybe place and 'announcement' in the largest local newspaper stating the why, and what and that I no longer want to be part of this deceptive organization. My hope would be that, when the word got out, many of my old JW friends might have seeds planted by my 'announcment'.
mauiboy
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How to disassociate? HELP
by Mandrake ini'm looking for a way to disassociate myself, now i'm thinking to make a "public declaration" before a civil law notary (i'm in chile), but i need some ideas about what to put in that declaration, i would like to look the "ks" book to cover all possible sides and make a solid declaration... any experiences?
my plan is to make that legal declaration that would say "i'm no longer consider myself a jehovah's witness nor want to be linked to any of the wt organizations or legal entities, and want all my personal records to be erased"... any orientation will be helpful :).
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Overlap what???
by dugout injust out of the blue i asked my wife whos been a jw for some 30 odd years can she explain the overlapping doctrine.
she said to me she never heard of this and said she will have to look it up.
i thought oh s#^%!.
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mauiboy
I asked my still-in wife the same thing.....she told me go ask the elders. "Oh, like a Catholic saying go ask the priest to explain the trinity?" I thought. Dasn't say it....yet.
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Lowering the standards: The sign of a cult struggling for survival
by Hidden-Window inmany of the recent changes in the jehovah's witness organization are a clear sign of a cult that is struggling for survival.
the internet has change the scenario in a very dramatic way.
many of us who for years struggled alone with doubts and cognitive dissonance thinking that we were the only ones, that we, as individuals were the issue, now know that there is a large community of individuals who see the organization as what it is, a mind controlling cult that is not only false, but also dangerous.. the governing body clearly understands the consequences of this awakening.
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mauiboy
There will always be some die-hards who are so deep in, have sooooo many years invested, and know they have nothing else to turn to or go to, that will remain. But yes in-deedy, I hope you are correct and the vast majority come to realize TTATT. Here's hoping that each of us with family, friends and loved ones stiil 'in' see them 'out' sooner rather than later.
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November 1 1960 QFR
by hoser inquestions from readers.
please answer my question in the watchtower.unsigned.. among the many readers of the watchtower who write in for information are some who ask personal questions on which they want a scriptural answer, but who give no name or address.
others give an address but no name.
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mauiboy
When I wrote to inquire about the relationship between the UN and the society, I asked that the answer be sent to my home address, because for a previous inquiry I had asked for it to be sent to another address where I could recieve mail. Each time the response was sent to an address other than the one I requested. When I asked it be sent to my office address, they sent it to my home. (Obviously someone called my district to get the home adress from an elder). When I asked it to be sent to my home (the 2nd instance), The response was sent to the local body of elders, who then came to my home unannounced to tell me they had a response to my inquiry....then they refused to give it to me, read it to me, give me a photo-copy of it, or tell me the exact wording in any way. I told them if they had come to insult me with this I wanted to know why there was no logic to this, and I wanted a copy of the letter. Again I was told no, the society has given us directions to inform you that they had contacted us (the BOE) nwith an answer, but that we were not to inform you of the exact wording....WTF???. They then volunteered the comment that the society would obviously not want the answer to show up somewhere on the internet.....my response: "well, duh!!! doesn't that, in itself give you a clue as to the truthfulness of the situation?? Why don't you just spit on me, and slap my face??Even that would not be as insulting as this". I invited the 2 elders to leave my home and never come back without my express permission....and not a single one ever has. Now that's love and shepherding if ever there was any. I have always wondered if anyone else ever had a similar response....
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The TRUE story of a Pedophile
by Tech49 inthis is a true experience that i thought i would share, one that occurred just a few years ago in my area.
it is a real experience, nothing made up here.. a younger couple moved into our kh, into the joining congregation (so not ours, but the other one that shared our kh).
they seemed nice enough, they had one boy that was about 8, and a baby on the way.
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mauiboy
When I served as an elder, a young girl....maybe 11 or 12....happened upon some porn, and thought performing oral sex on boys looked like alot of fun. So she 'serviced' serveral young boys....her age and a bit older. Some multiple times. When her mom became aware, she came to the elders....here's the catch: the girls dad was not a a W. So as elders dealing with a minor we decided the only thing to do was contact the legal dept in NY Bethel. Their advice to us was to counsel the girl and her mom, counsel all the boys involved, but by no means inform the girls father. If I remember their wording correctly...'that he might not go to the police and have it made a matter of public record, lest the media pick upon it, and we bring shame on the organization'. It pains me to this day that I was stupid and soooo indoctrinated that it never occurred to me to question that advice.
Yup, it happens. What a shame. It makes me think of James 4:17 that mentions if someone knows how to do what is right and doesn't do it, it is a sin for him.....bothers me to this day. BTW, any thoughts on how that scripture lies with Jehovah and the 1,000's of years and innumerable wrongs he's allowed to go on in that time?? If one single incident has bothered me for decades, what bothers him?
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just what am I supposed to believe now??
by purrpurr inwhile i'm glad i found this site, it has also crumbled to bits everything i've believed in my whole life.
i feel like the certainty, magic and wonder has gone out of my life.
this has left a huge hole in my soul.
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mauiboy
Read "Crisis of Conscience" by Ray Franz. In the final chapter (Perspective) you will hear thoughts and logic that will touch your heart. Try to read the whole book....it is a bit tedious at times, but an extremely worthwhile read. You will feel validated and more in touch with yourself and God if you take it cover to cover. I've been out 7 1/2 years and it was truly, as they say, 'a breath of fresh air'.......just what you need to get the repugnant, stale, and death-dealing WT teachings out of your soul.
All the best to you.
Mauiboy
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JEHOVAH WITNESS PEDOPHILE COVER-UP ON CNN SUNDAY NIGHT! FREDRICK MCLEAN!
by BucketShopBill inhi everyone, this has been what i have waited for, fredrick mclean is up next on cnn's "most wanted" and "hunted show", so far two of their topics are dead!.
last sunday's "the hunt" blew his head off monday morning!
let's hope cnn get's jehovah witness fredrick mclean!
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mauiboy
Will be watching (hopefully w/ die hard JW wife). Thank you for the heads-up.
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My wife sees the lack of love and.. Any suggestions on how to proceed?
by BU2B inin the past few weeks, my wife has been seeing more and more the lack of love and caring from jws.
for example, she is organizing a "princess party" for our 4 year old daughter.
a couple of the parents have expressed reservations about this since they think princesses may be "too magical" even though we know they have been to disneyworld, and watch the disney channel.
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mauiboy
Encourage her to read Crisis of Conscience. If you haven't you may want to read it also. Prime example of lack of love...from the 'top'.
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New "Caleb and Sofia" video on JW.ORG....you have to see it!
by stuckinarut2 inok, so i dont want to be a negative bitter person...and we all love little kids, but i am just so torn about the new video just uploaded on jw.org.
if you havent watched it yet, have a look at it...."an animated series that touches hearts".
(yes, its well done...and they certainly like to do a lot of boasting about their technical skills etc...).
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mauiboy
CHG....I, too, felt exactly the same watching this video....also disgusting is that my grandson has been taken under Mr. Gramblins' wing and is in a kind of mentorship working for him. My grandson already makes great videos with his quad-copter and go-pro of his parents business,and will be starting real estate and weddings soon. I hope he learns what he can from this guy and cuts to run on his own. But I fear Gramblin is in with the WT hook, line and sinker, and have no doubt he may influence his student to sink deeper into the dub-mud hole.
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New "Caleb and Sofia" video on JW.ORG....you have to see it!
by stuckinarut2 inok, so i dont want to be a negative bitter person...and we all love little kids, but i am just so torn about the new video just uploaded on jw.org.
if you havent watched it yet, have a look at it...."an animated series that touches hearts".
(yes, its well done...and they certainly like to do a lot of boasting about their technical skills etc...).
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mauiboy
Quarterback...In reply to your question if anyone is sure: James Gramblin is in the Makawao Congrgation in 'Upcountry' Maui......I believe his associate Cate is also in the same Kingdom Hall, if not the same congregation.