Doubt is like a fire unless you put it out, it will burn down your store house of faith. So I came here to put out the fire.
MarkofCane
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The real reason so many witnesses end up here....
by stuckinarut2 inwhy do so many witnesses end up coming to forums like this?.
no doubt it is because of the fact that the society disallows any form of sincere questioning of teachings or doctrines or history etc.... if there was open discussion allowed - free of repercussions and punishment, then no one would feel stifled.
if genuine concerns could be raised, then no one would feel smothered or unable to share thoughts... then in turn many would not leave.... but due to the high control, authoritarian culture the society has created, many feel trapped, and end up searching outside of official channels...and leaving the society.....
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One Person Baptized at Circuit Assembly
by Simon Templar ini went to the circuit assembly with my wife yesterday.
i have to keep peace in the family.
there were less than 1,000 people for both the morning and the afternoon sessions.
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MarkofCane
No word on my ass yet! Last year there were 5, one was elderly around 80 and 4 were born in's. I think people are not so easily scammed unless your a lonely elderly or coerced born in, brainwashed from birth. The growth really is in third world countries but as the internet reaches more and more people so will their decline. -
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Any here who didn't rebel as a teenager and were a goody two shoes instead?
by purrpurr inwhen i was a teenager in the borg i was a dyed in the wool, goody two shoes, squeaky clean,"spiritual " sister.
alot of my peers around me were rebelling and going off the rails but not me.
i was constantly praised for this and even felt a little smug about it ha!.
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MarkofCane
My wife fits the bill. Parents were and still are very controlling, when we dated we always had a chaperon with us. She never snuck out or got in trouble. She was exemplary in her congregation, pioneered right out of high school. I on the other hand was a rebel growing up, detested authority and had Zero belief in God. Did a 180, came back into the fold, got baptized (I mean brain washed) and got married. Funny made a full circle, now I'm back where I started. I guess I should of listen to my gut.
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Live in the U.S.? Tune into Dateline Friday evening, April 15th, to see a report about the Colorado Candelario murder trial (he's a JW).
by AndersonsInfo inralph and pam candelario were active jws in colorado.
ralph murdered pam.
professor jim penton was invited to appear at the trial last month by the prosecution as an expert witness to answer questions about jws.
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MarkofCane
nbc.com/dateline/video/tangled/3017009
Here's the entire video, also sent it to my wife. My way of waking her up to this crazy cult.
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JW Story on Dateline this Friday
by ShirleyW inpam candelario, ralph candelario, dateline nbc: colorado man killed second wife, first wife still missing.
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the title of an article in the inqusitr, i get the google alerts for the dubs, but this site for some reason i couldn't do a cut and paste, anyway, if you're interested to see why one of jehovahs loyal servants would kill his 1st and 2nd wives it's supposed to be broadcast this friday at 10pm est..
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I have tried really hard to be worldly, for ten years, tried to get worldly friends, and get back with family.
by Sledracer ini am so bad at being worldly, it's not like i gave it a good try, we are just not good at it my husband and i, i see him light up as he has started to read the bible again.
i'm good at being a witness, i am accepted, and hold the same beliefs, i have tried to find somewhere else, if there is a place, why hav'n't jehovah and the angels directed me to it?
thank you for all the loving posts, some of them have been just what i needed.
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MarkofCane
Leaving a cult after devoting all your life to it is hard, I agree! I took me some time to figure out how to be Me! The person I was in the cult was not me, I had to fight the real me all my life. The person I am today is the real me, the product of my ancestral DNA, yet unique.
The bOrg uses a lot of control phrases or words like spiritual, guided by the spirit or guided by the flesh and Worldly. They use them to keep you trapped and enslaved to a ideology that's crumbling around them, if they can control your mind they can control you. This is not new all religions use fear and control words like Hell, Armageddon, purgatory, death & paradise to keep you subjected to them. Its time to stop being abused and empower yourself with knowledge, educate yourself about the real world, religions, world history, evolution, science this will release the bonds of superstition and religion.
Just be yourself and strive to make the world a better place, people will gravitate to you, but you have to put yourself out there. We are so damaged by our thinking about people that we shrink back from friendships and new experiences, we are the ones that need to learn to assimilate with mankind again.
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Anybody remember those brothers that would harass, and hound the elders into making them, finally, appoint him as an elder himself?
by Dunedain inlol, for some reason, i was thinking back to all the many "characters" that were often so prevalent in kingdom halls back in the day.
they are, i am sure, still there now, but fortunately i haven't been in a kh for like 20 years.. anyway, i remembered this one brother, who was dying to be made an elder.
he could not believe he wasn't an elder yet, after sooo many years.
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MarkofCane
I for one avoided the conversation where they tried to pressure me or encourage me to do more to become a elder. I've always owned my own business and even when I tried to simplify it seamed like it took all I had to make meetings and service, maybe deep inside I had my doubts.
Anyways, their were some in my Hall that dint have the qualifications to be a elder, they kiss so much ass to be appointed. I remember this one fellow who's "Elder" father came down from another state to question why his son was not made a elder yet? After much pressuring and ass kissing they made him a elder, he turned into a little Gestapo, he would snitch on anybody if it gave him a leg up. There were some who really bought into the whole thing but most just wanted the status.
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I went to see my Dr about the blood card issue
by purrpurr ini booked a double appointment so that she wouldn't be rushed.
i explained that i'd been brought up in the jw's and woken up to what a load of shite it was.
i explained that they have changed the blood card and that the elders in the cong are being told to effectively force people into signing it.
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MarkofCane
I have never been forced or coerced to sign a death card ever. But if they implement this new rule where they want a card on file for each member as indicated in another post it could out faders who are not ready to come out. In my case, I will tell them I will not be signing anything regarding my medical records unless your my physician which you clearly are not. That's kind of end of discussion.
Now If your in good standing going to all the meeting, field service and participating in the school then you have created a conundrum for yourself. In there minds you are their slave still and need to comply. I have indicated by my absence that their rules are unimportant and I will not comply. I'm not df or da, most shun me and I shun them. I do believe I have made it perfectly clear where I stand without really saying a word.
The Only power they have is the power you bestow upon them.
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Last night's talk re sisters wearing head covering, puke making!
by purrpurr indear sisters,.
when you are fortunate enough to be in the presence of a jw penis you must take care to show the proper respect for it!
doesn't matter if said penis is prepubescent!
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MarkofCane
The reference made about penis is not made in derogatory way. It sarcasm about the silliness of a controlling cult we at one time adhered too. It about as silly as the teaching that a women can rule with Christ as a anointed but cant pray among a baptized male, just because he has a penis. I never understood this, it seemed so stupid even when I believed it wholeheartedly. -
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NEW BLOOD CARD w/ FORCED COMPLIANCE also LEGALISM
by apocalypse ini have looked around and i don't see this covered, so i am starting a thread.. 1) the new "blood card" goes beyond being just a "blood card".. 2) a new edict concerning compliance.. pay attention to the changes.. first, the new card is termed "advance decision to refuse specified medical treatment".
the big change with the card itself is that it includes an 'override' of your "power of attorney".
this is huge.
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MarkofCane
I got rid of my death card awhile back. If they try that shit with me they might need to use their blood card sooner then they wised.