there's a lot of nonsense about the coming iraq war that's floating about.. there's a lot of dumb editorials and knee jerk comments about oil and george bush.. the reality is: they can't publically discuss the real reasons why a war with iraq.
is desirable.here's the real motivation - they want to create a progressive secular.
arab regime and fend off muslim fundamentalists.. comments about bush's iq are off the mark and foolish.
It is in our best interests at this point to control it.
I disagree. With relatively little pain, e.g. legislate SUVs for housewives out of existence, oil use in the US could be significantly reduced in the short term, and alternative energy could replace it in the long term.
I believe the cost of gas should be about triple what it is, to better reflect what it really costs and encourage drastic reduction.
So our best interests would be to reduce our dependencies on fossil fuels.
there's a lot of nonsense about the coming iraq war that's floating about.. there's a lot of dumb editorials and knee jerk comments about oil and george bush.. the reality is: they can't publically discuss the real reasons why a war with iraq.
is desirable.here's the real motivation - they want to create a progressive secular.
arab regime and fend off muslim fundamentalists.. comments about bush's iq are off the mark and foolish.
Frankly, I'd rather see someone come up with a new energy supply and let them all regress into the glorious 15th century lifestyle they all aspire to.
Aren't you more or less admitting here that oil is the reason we're concerned with Iraq. You're comments about the smart people around Bush misses an obvious point - with the exception of Powell (widely regarded as an outsider in this administration) all of Bush's important advisors have a big oil background. Condoleeza has a tanker named after her!
Your theory also doesn't account for the attack on Afghanistan. Nothing was accomplished re: the War on (some) Terror, and Afghanistan was regionally unimportant, but it is the only route for a major pipeline project which will now happen with the Taliban removed.
The desire to control oil supply explains everything, IMHO.
who has heard of the illuminati?
and the secret plans they have to rule the world?
geeesh...does anyone believe this?
FWIW, David Icke believes that JWs were established as one of many fundamentalist groups to keep the people distracted and pacified, and that the original impulse was occult in nature. As evidence, he points to the winged globe symbol on early literature and Russell's spiritism.
Which is the problem with actually reading one of Icke's books. You want to think he's unredeemably nuts, but then he pops out something like that which could make sense. I've certainly never seen a better explanation of the winged globe (an Egyptian symbol associated with Sirius and Horus... don't ask).
who has heard of the illuminati?
and the secret plans they have to rule the world?
geeesh...does anyone believe this?
That a group or groups calling themselves the Illuminati have existed at various times, particularly within Freemasonry, is generally accepted by historians. Whether they still exist and wield significant power is, naturally, disputed. The existence of secretive groups of powerful men with private agendas (e.g. Bilderbergers, Skull and Bones, Opus Dei, Knights of Malta, Bohemian Grove, Council on Foreign Relations, Tri-Lateral Commission, etc. etc.) is also generally accepted.
So I don't consider it loony to believe that Illuminati may exist, whether or not they still call themselves that. And being interested in the subject is neither paranoid nor insane. It is merely prudent self-interest.
That said, David Icke is stone crazy.
two questions: is there a cd now being used by jws more recent than the 1999 cd?
if so, has anyone on this board checked how it handles the johannes greber material compared to the 1999 cd?.
apologies if this is in a previous thread.. thanks all.
Thanks NM. IOW, they repeated the duplicity of the '99 CD.
two questions: is there a cd now being used by jws more recent than the 1999 cd?
if so, has anyone on this board checked how it handles the johannes greber material compared to the 1999 cd?.
apologies if this is in a previous thread.. thanks all.
bttt
two questions: is there a cd now being used by jws more recent than the 1999 cd?
if so, has anyone on this board checked how it handles the johannes greber material compared to the 1999 cd?.
apologies if this is in a previous thread.. thanks all.
Two questions: Is there a CD now being used by JWs more recent than the 1999 CD? If so, has anyone on this board checked how it handles the Johannes Greber material compared to the 1999 CD?
Apologies if this is in a previous thread.
Thanks all.
hi everyone - this is my first time posting to this board.. in any event, i am a newly dfd sister (announcement made about a week ago) who is interested in corresponding with and meeting a dfd brother.
adding to my dilemma is the fact that i plan on returning to the organization which i know is the direct opposite of what some on this board want.
i am african american, 34 years of age and attractive.
If you want to go back, why are you looking for a DF'd person?
don't get me wrong, i'm not one to actively persecute jw's, i'm just wondering what you guys think is the best agrument/point to use when a pesky brother or sister just won't leave you alone.
normally, i am willing to listen to their drivel out of respect (even though i have no respect for the wt) but there are times when i am not in the mood to hear them babble.
i normally bring up the 1914 generation point, and it normally works.
4 questions:
1) Does the WTS claim to be God's sole channel, to be spirit directed, and to speak in God's name?
2) Has the WTS ever made predictions about the future?
3) Have any of these predictions not come true?
4) What is the difference between this and false prophecy?
one day while i was on the phone with one of my friends, we came up with the dumbest idea.
the idea was "neo-uranianism".
simply put, the modern-day worship of uranus.
So like, you meet chicks by saying, "I worship Uranus"?
