an elder approached a mate of mine saying that they have to meet up with him soon because he has been baptised a year and it's time for his review? anyone has heard of that? they are really pissing me off :/
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review of a newly baptized publisher
by raxxxx inan elder approached a mate of mine saying that they have to meet up with him soon because he has been baptised a year and it's time for his review?
anyone has heard of that?
they are really pissing me off :/.
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depressed and starting to loose it
by raxxxx insooo... it has been a few good months since i started having doubts and started researching.
now very much convinced i had been lied to and my parents had not done their homework prior being baptised therefore it fucked up my future ... just a bit.
now also had been going out with a jw girl for 1,5 years... and i am starting to loose it... stuck in a lie, delaying the getting engaged because of my attitude towards religion(she knows i had doubts and always have been anti watchtower - got baptized anyway... stupid me - but she doesn't make a big deal out of it... she is not very strong spiritually) ergo i know i am not fit to be head of the house by jw standards... but i just love her too damn much to break her heart by leaving the organization and ergo leaving her.
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sooo... it has been a few good months since i started having doubts and started researching. now very much convinced i had been lied to and my parents had not done their homework prior being baptised therefore it fucked up my future ... just a bit. now also had been going out with a jw girl for 1,5 years... and i am starting to loose it... stuck in a lie, delaying the getting engaged because of my attitude towards religion(she knows i had doubts and always have been anti watchtower - got baptized anyway... stupid me - but she doesn't make a big deal out of it... she is not very strong spiritually) ergo i know i am not fit to be head of the house by jw standards... but i just love her too damn much to break her heart by leaving the organization and ergo leaving her. i don't want her to leave with me because she will resent me with time... because she won't have contact with her parents and friends... don't wanna take someone's life into my hands to fuck it up... stuck not knowing what to do and usually calm, controlled and loving person is hurling down in the obscenity of self-hate and alcohol... ahh there was my little rant... somehow still not feeling better!
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Cons of being a jehovah's witness
by raxxxx inwhat could u list as negative things as being a jw/ex jw for example when u were growing up etc that still affext u now?.
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what could u list as negative things as being a jw/ex jw for example when u were growing up etc that still affext u now?
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Pros about being a jehovah's witness
by raxxxx incan you personally think of any pros of being a jws?
anything that you have experienced that was and still is beneficial to you now from when u were a jw?.
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can you personally think of any pros of being a jws? anything that you have experienced that was and still is beneficial to you now from when u were a jw?
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doctrine of JWs, scriputes and apostates... your opinion.
by raxxxx inwhat -in your opinion - are the most crucial and important scriptures to you that condradict/don't agree/are against/are ignored by jehovah's witnesses?
post as many as you wish!
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what -in your opinion - are the most crucial and important scriptures to you that condradict/don't agree/are against/are ignored by jehovah's witnesses? post as many as you wish! :)
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Crisis of Conscience: Who Wants It?
by RAYZORBLADE ini have had this book for several years; it's in excellent condition.
i have posted infrequently here; follow up posts on occasion regarding this book that i have, yet still no takers.
the local library were awkward; insert charlie brown adult voice.
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Is there any chance I could have it? if you want cedars I would send it to you after I have finished reading it if I would get it? I am still an jw just trying to research stuff to... gain knowledge to deal with elders if I have to later on and wanna discover everything I didn't know about this religion.
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Who designed cancer?
by snare&racket inone thing i regret, is not listening to the questions in my head whilst a jw.
one i didn't ask until years after leaving was....who designed disease?
of course the first thing to realise is the complexity of disease, the histology, pathology and aetiology.
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That's one of the problems I used to have. They say that death and illnesses are a product of our imprefection. But surely... they must have been somehow designed it BEFORE Adam and Eve ate the fruit? Or did it all just appeard out of nothing? Or is God just a sadistic dick who designed all of that and it was released so to speak as soon as they ate the fruit? And if Noah's story is true why have we got all of the diseases going around in this world if there were only 8 people on the boat? or did some of them have crabs and the clap?
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What's The Worst Thing An Elder or Elders Did To You?
by minimus inwas there anything truly terrible??
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When I was a teen and had an ilness which caused me to be hyper sensitive to light so I couldn't leave my house for 2 months so therefore I was not able to do any ministry and did not report anything. When I finally got back to meetings (no one called or asked what is going on for 2 months - christian love my arse) and elder comes up to me and asks why I did not report anything.. I explained myself and what was his response ? 'Well next time let us elders know and we can take you out when it's dark, or maybe just take an umbrella to protect yourself from sunlight or maybe sunglasses?' at that point I walked off.
Also multiple occasions when I was unbaptized publisher and opinion or statement of a baptized person was taken over mine even though they were lying.
And not being able to get batized because I was not out in the ministry with an elder for couple of month. Went through questions and then a week before by supposed batism they come over and announce that they are really sorry but (due to their lack of integrity and stupidity) because they haven't been out with me in the ministry in a long time they can not let me get baptized. I was really close to punching one of them when they came over to me at the assembly he tried to tap me on my arm and called me buddy and started talking some bullshit. My dad noticed my fist slowly rising to deck him and told me to go and talk to mum and defused the situation. Still wish I punched that idiot (elder not my dad)
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http://www.watchtower.org/e/jt/article_03.htm
Why don't we rip some of the apart and make a pamphlet out of what you guys come up with?
Belief Scriptural Reason 1.Bible is God's Word and is truth 2 Tim. 3:16, 17 ; 2 Pet. 1:20, 21 ; John 17:17 2.Bible is more reliable than tradition Matt. 15:3 ; Col. 2:8 3.God's name is Jehovah Ps. 83:18 ; Isa. 26:4 ; 42:8 , AS; Ex. 6:3 4.Christ is God's Son and is inferior to Him Matt. 3:17 ; John 8:42 ; 14:28 ; 20:17 ; 1 Cor. 11:3 ; 15:28 5.Christ was first of God's creations Col. 1:15 ; Rev. 3:14 6.Christ died on a stake, not a cross Gal. 3:13 ; Acts 5:30 7.Christ's human life was paid as a ransom for obedient humans Matt. 20:28 ; 1 Tim. 2:5, 6 ; 1 Pet. 2:24 8.Christ's one sacrifice was sufficient Rom. 6:10 ; Heb. 9:25-28 9.Christ was raised from the dead as an immortal spirit person 1 Pet. 3:18 ; Rom. 6:9 ; Rev. 1:17, 18 10.Christ's presence is in spirit John 14:19 ; Matt. 24:3 ; 2 Cor. 5:16 ; Ps. 110:1, 2 11.We are now in the 'time of the end' Matt. 24:3-14 ; 2 Tim. 3:1-5 ; Luke 17:26-30 12.Kingdom under Christ will rule earth in righteousness and peace Isa. 9:6, 7 ; 11:1-5 ; Dan. 7:13, 14 ; Matt. 6:10 13.Kingdom will bring ideal living conditions to earth Ps. 72:1-4 ; Rev. 7:9, 10 , 13-17 ; 21:3, 4 14.Earth will never be destroyed or depopulated Eccl. 1:4 ; Isa. 45:18 ; Ps. 78:69 15.God will eliminate present system of things in the battle at Har-Magedon Rev. 16:14 , 16 ; Zeph. 3:8 ; Dan. 2:44 ; Isa. 34:2 ; 55:10, 11 16.Wicked will be eternally destroyed Matt. 25:41-46 ; 2 Thess. 1:6-9 17.People God approves will receive everlasting life John 3:16 ; 10:27, 28 ; 17:3 ; Mark 10:29, 30 18.There is only one road to life Matt. 7:13, 14 ; Eph. 4:4, 5 19.Human death is due to Adam's sin Rom. 5:12 ; 6:23 20.The human soul ceases to exist at death Ezek. 18:4 ; Eccl. 9:10 ; Ps. 6:5 ; 146:4 ; John 11:11-14 21.Hell is mankind's common grave Job 14:13 , Dy; Rev. 20:13, 14 , AV (margin) 22.Hope for dead is resurrection 1 Cor. 15:20-22 ; John 5:28, 29 ; 11:25, 26 23.Adamic death will cease 1 Cor. 15:26 , 54 ; Rev. 21:4 ; Isa. 25:8 24.Only a little flock of 144,000 go to heaven and rule with Christ Luke 12:32 ; Rev. 14:1 , 3 ; 1 Cor. 15:40-53 ; Rev. 5:9, 10 25.The 144,000 are born again as spiritual sons of God 1 Pet. 1:23 ; John 3:3 ; Rev. 7:3, 4 26.New covenant is made with spiritual Israel Jer. 31:31 ; Heb. 8:10-13 27.Christ's congregation is built upon himself Eph. 2:20 ; Isa. 28:16 ; Matt. 21:42 28.Prayers are to be directed only to Jehovah through Christ John 14:6 , 13, 14 ; 1 Tim. 2:5 29.Images should not be used in worship Ex. 20:4, 5 ; Lev. 26:1 ; 1 Cor. 10:14 ; Ps. 115:4-8 30.Spiritism must be shunned Deut. 18:10-12 ; Gal. 5:19-21 ; Lev. 19:31 31.Satan is invisible ruler of world 1 John 5:19 ; 2 Cor. 4:4 ; John 12:31 32.A Christian ought to have no part in interfaith movements 2 Cor. 6:14-17 ; 11:13-15 ; Gal. 5:9 ; Deut. 7:1-5 33.A Christian should keep separate from world Jas. 4:4 ; 1 John 2:15 ; John 15:19 ; 17:16 34.Obey human laws that do not conflict with God's laws Matt. 22:20, 21 ; 1 Pet. 2:12 ; 4:15 35.Taking blood into body through mouth or veins violates God's laws Gen. 9:3, 4 ; Lev. 17:14 ; Acts 15:28, 29 36.Bible's laws on morals must be obeyed 1 Cor. 6:9, 10 ; Heb. 13:4 ; 1 Tim. 3:2 ; Prov. 5:1-23 37.Sabbath observance was given only to Israel and ended with Mosaic Law Deut. 5:15 ; Ex. 31:13 ; Rom. 10:4 ; Gal. 4:9, 10 ; Col. 2:16, 17 38.A clergy class and special titles are improper Matt. 23:8-12 ; 20:25-27 ; Job 32:21, 22 39.Man did not evolve but was created Isa. 45:12 ; Gen. 1:27 ; Matt. 19:4 40.Christ set example that must be followed in serving God 1 Pet. 2:21 ; Heb. 10:7 ; John 4:34 ; 6:38 41.Baptism by complete immersion symbolizes dedication Mark 1:9, 10 ; John 3:23 ; Acts 19:4, 5 42.Christians gladly give public testimony to Scriptural truth Rom. 10:10 ; Heb. 13:15 ; Isa. 43:10-12 -
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help with an email
by raxxxx ini am writing to a mate who has been disfellowshipped couple of months back to make him think about religion as i have heared he started going back to meetings.
it is going to be an anonymous email so suggestions would be welcome!.
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not sure whether to tackle it from doctrine crap or scriptures ? what do you guys think? really care for that mate and wish he could be toltally set free