Posts by wednesday

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What kind of bear are you?

by WildHorses in

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i thought this was kind of cute.

let's hope i do this right.. http://www.smilepop.com/index.cfm?action=viewcard&content_id=321

Prez. Clinton into the Hall of Fame

by teejay in

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bill clinton, the greatest president of the 20th cenury, was inducted into the hall of fame:.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/us/south/10/20/clinton.blacks.ap/.

"i owe you way more than you owe me," clinton told the audience of 850 people, who gave him a thunderous, standing ovation.

I can't debate politics with u guys- . But always thought clinton was just adoreable and can see why the ladies like him. :)> I always thuoght Hilary was a very cool lady and she and Bill definiitely should have parted ways long ago.

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I'm afraid about her...

by Zaanieth in

at first, sorry for my bad english.. i found this forum in bbc when i was looking for something about jws because this sect became a big problem in my life 3 or 4 months ago.. last 4 years, it began on elementary and now it continues on high school, i was in love with one girl, but i didn't know much about her, because she was entering group b and i was entering group a in the school.

i wanted to know more about her so i didn't tell it her and long time i hoped that will be a situation when i will speak with her.

but this wasn't happened.

wednesday

you will probably not want to hear this, but ugg is right-it is best u find someone else. she will not leave her religion just because of u, she would face being disassociated or disfellowshiped shuould she take up a relationship with u-whom she considers a worldly person. She is trying to convert u and if she cannot she will not speak to u.

there is an old rock and roll song form the 50's that in part says"Young love , true love, filled with deep emotion..." I know u must feel this way now, but if she gives up her religion for u, she could grow to hate u and might go back. save yourself a lot of heartache and try and find someone who thinks more like u. If not u could find yourself singing a tune that Meat Loaf sung"It was long ago and far away, and so much better than it is today..." THINK

wednesday

Edited by - wednesday on 20 October 2002 17:18:27

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Larc's Survey Results Part One

by larc in

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below are the basic statistics for the survery i conducted.

this is based on a sample of 75 people.

first of all, i obtained statistics for the first half of the sample and compared it to the statistics for the total sample.

wednesday

Also, if a person is dealing with issues in their life that are really unrelated to JW-perhaps incest, inherited depression, and the resulting problems of low self esteem-well leaving the org. may help but would not clear up those problems. So in or out of rog a person can suffer form depression, bipolar, and realted mental illness.Many people other then jw had abuse in childhood. abuse takes its tole aso a person can still be depressed even out of org.

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Be careful you don't catch it

by kenpodragon in

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i have several little nieces and nephews in my life.

in doing so i have watched them grow from being these little babies, to these children that run all over my house when they visit.

they are a lot of fun, but some of them have the most nasty of habits.

wednesday

I guess it is a little weird, but she's going to be a grandmother and i can tell u that is a joyous experience. recently i became a first time grandmother, and i never thought i could be so happy.My heart jumps when they say "grandma, Pa pa".

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I am reaching my breaking point!

by gilwarrior in

i just got back from the palms casino where i lost $60 dollars.

that had to be the worst game of poker i have ever had.

i got home and everything just started coming to me.

wednesday

If u are looking for a job u can go to the labor force office and spend time there researching jobs. It will provide human contact. Join support groups, AA people are very friendly and will welcome u. there are suport groups for everything. Go to the community recreation center and pick up a guide to classes and free stuff. all will provide human contact. Get out and take walks every day. Get a schedule and stick to it. Read, keep your mind occupied. I know this is hard. My husband was laid off for 18 months. Can't count the number of times he watched mr. mom. Post here .the internet is a wonderful thing . Visit nursing homes. many pepople there have no family and would love someone to talk to. Deliver food for meals on wheels. volunteer at the center for aging to be an older person's special friend. many elderly people have no family and would love to talk to u. exercise.

wishing u the best. Nothing lasts forever. wednesday

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Therapy

by Moxy in

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im breaking a long absence to ask a question during this evening of soul-searching in what i believe to be the best place to ask it.

i dont know how many people are still here who remember me well, so first a 'hi and miss you guys' to those who are.. im wondering about therapy.

i always thought i had a pretty good handle on my life despite the upheaval of leaving the witnesses.

wednesday

I agree with farkel , if your issues are not too serious, a best friend will help a lot. My issues were very serious and long standing and i had worn out all my friends. (even a good friend can only listen to so much). eventually i went into therapy and have been in theray for quite a while. I have gained a lot of help from it. Initaially, my therapy dealt with chilhood issues and things like that. Now it is more like the here and now . My therapist saw me when i had good insurance and when i was on medicare. money has not been soemthing that has come between us.

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Fun at the KH

by WildTurkey in

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fun things for us apostates to do at the kh..

pull aside an unruly child and say: "if you're bad in here, you'll go to die at armageddon.".

put stray dogs in library.

wednesday

Well this did not happen at teh hall, but my boys once called one of those prayer lines and gave them my number and told them j had a drinking porblem and needed help.They said i would deny it. So for real those jokers callled me and i did deny it and well if u could have heard the howls of laughter in the house-i guess it was funny.

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What's The First Step To Leaving The "Trut...

by minimus in

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for those that have entirely left, what was it that first got you seriously thinking that this really wasn't the truth?

for those that may be in just mentally, you can answer too....

wednesday

Why have i left? Well, i can truthfully say it never had anything to do with any "apostate material". I never touched the stuff-JW had me throughly brainwashed to not read it. I got my ideas all by myself. I stayed with it for soooo long b/c I was raised in it and "where else could i go"(that one sttement really hung in my brain. I endured all sort of mistreatment form elders. It is a lie that they try and help people who have problems. I had a bro tell me to quit tellling people i was a jw. i was bringing disgrace on jehovahs's name. Even this did not make me quit. But one day, a sis was privately reproved for adultry(however lost no provilges) and her x remarried in another kh in good standing. They never annouced anything-even thugh it was obivious to all that the marriage bond had been broken by one of them-and since the x was allowed to remarry in good standing-well it had to be the sis. So one day she just shows up with new husband-and they fall all over themselfs to welcome her and him. I wnet to an elder and really complained. Why was theis sis not d/f? all knew something had broken up their marriage. I was told to mind my own business. That was it for me. I walked out of the hall and from then on the only time i went back was for memorial (old habits die hard) and eventually to take my loyal mother to hall on sundays. I had an elder recently ask me to come back. i said"when u guys apologize for destroying my life" he told me i had to for give the elders or i could not expect forgiveness. Just recently i got the courage to read aposte material. Some of it is whinnning and bitching. But not all. I never realized all the prophery stuff and feel like a fool now for ever beleivng it. I got the book on COC and have to hide and read it(my husband it still a jw ,we have discusssed this and he refused to read anything and would be appaled if he knew i had COC). I can't celebrate holidays-my husband taunts me with"So i guess now u won't to celebrate xmas?" Just today one of my sons was over and he tells me what a hole he has in his soul not being able to be like the other kids . I have apoligized and i am trying to help him now as much as i can. In the name of religion i put my children thrjough things he cannot get over. He said he knew age 6 it was not for him. he told me years ago "no religion that tears families apart could be good" I wished i had listend to him then. I was so ill(both physically and emotionally) I also credit my therapist with helping me. In the beginning i would not even listen to him Only if what i was told came from the elders would i acept it. Through his kindess and help-thank goodness i finally begin to hear his words. he helped me get enough self esteem to leave.

I have no idea where i am going to now. I am in a state of fluke now. i still pray, I still fear i may be making a mistake, i i most of all fear i will be confronted with looking at apostate material. I well know, it will be cut and dry. they will not listen to anything

don't ever write the society-they only forward it to your local cong.

Edited by - wednesday on 19 October 2002 19:2:18

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elders paranoid about baby shower

by jurs in

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perhaps someone out there knows if this is a common jw paranoia.

once a sister in my hall was going to have a baby.

because she wasn't in the "click" no one offered to give her a baby shower.

wednesday

I just wanted to confirm that form as long as i can remember the jw have been saying stuff like that from platform. No list in case of persecution . No passing out invitations at hall. Once a sis commintted adultry and was privately reproved. her x remarried in god standing at another hall. They would not allow her to have a weddding shower public. Her close friends did however give her one. Wednesday

Edited by - wednesday on 20 October 2002 18:14:45