I used to go to hope i would hear somehting that would help me forgive JW and still be able to serve jehovah, No way to do that.
I used to go to se old friends, and get the new books and hear new light.
don't go anymore.
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Why Do Inactive Ones Regularly Go To Assemblies?
by minimus ini never could understand why people that never go to meetings, suddenly show up at circuit assemblies or district conventions.
what do you think??
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The Government & Disfellowshipping
by Mary infrom everything i've read here, the jist seems to be that if you're disfellowshipped, you have little chance of winning a lawsuit against the borg because the government still gives them the right to "shun" members if they see fit.. it occurred to me that perhaps we're ignoring a potential ray of light at the end of the tunnel.
what if we tried to lobby the government into changing this, so that it would be illegal for any religion to shun former members?
it's a long shot maybe, but if it could be shown (maybe on another program like dateline) of how unfair, cruel and inhumane it is to tell people they must shun family members or close friends simply because they don't think the same way as them, then maybe eventually, one day, a law would be passed forbidding shunning in any religion.. it's not just ex-witnesses that would support this: ex-mormons, ex-scientologists, ex-seventh day adventists etc.
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I read on the WTS site that a person who suied them for DF and shunning went all the way to the supreme court and lost /.freedom of religion. Also, a lot of people do not realize that it is more than just the jws right to make rules and enforce them. jws have worked hard to tell people they are not a cult. Many people do not see them as a cult-just annoying. they fgure, if u don't want to be one-leave.
I really think our best hope lies in this child abuse issue.. the gov will step in to protect childrens rights. If a religion is shown to hurt or viloate a childs rights, there may be some hope. As far as adults, well they figure u can leave the religion, and well they can't make people talk to u if they do not want to.
this problem will probalby be addressed via minors rights bieng violated. and u know, even if they made it illegal to shun,jws would envoke the marking thing and it all amounts to the same thing . They are going to have control over who u talk to, one way or the other.
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Millions now living, expect to be DA'd
by cyberguy innew strategy to da/df millions who have left.
i'm wondering if there isn't a new policy of da'ing all those who no longer attend or are inactive "publishers" (find that in the bible!).
i've read a number of threads on this board whereby people are now being hunted-down, nazi-fashion, if when queried, "are you one of jw?
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Nick,
Can u trust your wife? Does she know/or have u made your feelngs about Jws known to her? perhaps they are just stopping by for a upbuilding visit, but i doubt it.
has your wife expressed any "negaitive" thoughts to anyone? It may have gotten back to elders.
I don't know where u are on your way out, or even if u want out, but be very careful if u don't want them to trap u into saying something u may not be ready to say. Also, have u or her said anything to anyone that could be implied as against the org?
So, before they come, have a talk with your wife and find out what is going on. remember, u do not have to allow them in your home if u are not ready to talk to them
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LittleToe's Mojo
by Sirona inits nothing to be ashamed of, is it???
no....its normal...... .
i just have to....then its out in the open...... .
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I have to admit, LT is a very handsome guy, with a senitive look( a few years ago we would have said a real allan aldin, or phil donahoue
Sort of reminds me of Little Joe from Bonanza (god I'm old.but not dead set)
but i also find Lew to be very appealing, i like that pic he had with him and his dgt.
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Paranoid Schizophrenia
by Nickey inthis is an issue that i've had to look into due to the extreme paranoia of my mother.
it's getting ridiculous.
and it get's worse everytime she reads the publications.
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Nickey,.
I am so sorry for what u have had to go thrugh. Your mom is very mentaly ill, as u know, and it sounds like your grandfther may not be in too good of shape either.
if u can move out, i would do it. No one can live with this. I know, nicky, i grew up with a very ill mother, and my heart breaks for u. Try and get out and find some peace .
Yes it is true a lot of ill people can appear quite some at times and often it is hard to get them help unless they see the need for it.
I'm glad your aunt appears to agree with u, u need someone who has seen her behavior to validte it for u. It's not u, your mom would be ill even if u were a saint and a perfect jw.
But u do need to remove your self from this before it affects your mental helath.
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Paranoid Schizophrenia
by Nickey inthis is an issue that i've had to look into due to the extreme paranoia of my mother.
it's getting ridiculous.
and it get's worse everytime she reads the publications.
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nickey,
i know this is the last thing u wnat to do, but if your mom gets too bad, u may have to have her put in for 24-72 hours to evaluate hr mental status. I know she will hate it, but most jws don't get this nuts. and if they do they need treatment. there are a couple of options, a mental illness warrant, werein they will pick her up and confin her for evaluation. If she is not eating or appearing to be a danger to self or others, (and that includes a lot of things) u can take her to ER for Evalualtion. the best way is the mental lillness warrant. It is not easy, but she may need treatment. Also, if she is behaving really bizzrely (like attacking u or being physically abusive with u), u can call 911 and they wil pick her up and take her to er for evaluation by doc. They may not keep her, but at least it would get her and evalution. A lot of ER;s won't keep someone unless they say they are going to kill themslefs or othes. Some will keep people for just plain psychosis. if this get stoo bad , consult a lawyer as how to precede. Remember, she has no right to physically abuse u or anyone else, or verbally abuse u. and any weird behavour should be brought to their atention alos.
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Why on earth do boys..............................
by Jesika inthink that farting and burping are sooooooooo funny????????
my son will be 9 in jan and my bf's nephew is the same age only 2 weeks later than my son's birthday.
my son (jessie) and chris (the nephew) stayed over for a couple days.
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o jess,
i hate to tell u this, but my two teenage sons actually got on video them "lighting" thier farts. Someone told them they would actually casue a flame, and they tried it. I have to tell u- my now dgt. in law saw the video and said "that must have been the proudest day of your life as a mother" They are older now, and laugh hystericaly at the video.
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"Silentlambs" was the "Messenger...
by Gilgamesh inbill bowen may be more important than some of us think he is.
there was a post back in july this year that began: wycliffe, tyndale,..........bowen .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=33120&site=3.
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I just got through reading over three thousand of these IP hash numbers and had noticed only a few posters on this forum who ostensibly use two different names on the same machine (or proxy IP address
I totally agree with Sloan, i would try and find something else to do with my time. Its the holiday season , remember?
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How are you getting along with your believing mate
by Leander inso far for me this is really turning into an exercise of frustration.
i feel like screaming
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Edited by - wednesday on 23 December 2002 1:20:19
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actually, while i was working professionally, i would get so stressed out-i used to say to my colleges, "the walmart greeters look so happy and unstressed-i may go apply there"