At this point all i can say is that at least religion is an un-intentional cover up for ignorance.
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60Will science ever replace religion?
by onacruse infirst, there've been some really good threads here lately...i've been somewhat pre-occupied with a rather laborious personal project, so i haven't been able to engage myself in your conversations as much as i'd otherwise like; but i like to watch .
but, to the point: recently, scott atran (anthropologist, author of in gods we trust, and now working with the national center for scientific research in paris, and at the university of michigan) gave an interview in discover magazine.
the topic was "the surprises of suicide terrorism," but the concluding question (and answer) was what struck me most:.
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US ready to seize Gulf oil in 1973
by ignored_one inhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3333995.stm
us ready to seize gulf oil in 1973 by paul reynolds .
bbc news online world affairs correspondent .
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If you control the oil, you control the world.
Fuel cell is the ready answer, your next car may be powered by fuel cel, no choice. It has been an available option for decades. No harmful emission, pure clean.
All car manufactures are ready with their electric cars with the engine on, at the gate waiting for the go ahead from uncle Sam.
Cel phone powered by fuel cel, distributed power generation, heck even you can generate electricity at your house from ?water?? if ?they? show you how. You can buy an expensive unit from Coleman, but they (oil corp) still (maybe never) don?t want you to produce your own hydrogen to run your fuel cel power plant.
Among other source of energy fuel cel can run out of water (hydrogen, water = H2O) for all practical purposes.
The problem is it will have geopolitical effects I can?t even imagine, that may be the reason USA is holding the brakes on the electric cars.
What will you have to control to control the World? USA is figuring that out before releasing the old/new technology which they have been using on spacecraft for decades. But time is running out, clock is ticking faster.
Well, they are figuring how to convert gas station into hydrogen stations, some cities like washington already have experimental ?hydrogen stations?
Oil companies? No, water companies...
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JW suspect in triple murder
by DevonMcBride inhttp://www.wftv.com/news/2684618/detail.html
police name suspect in triple murder
posted: 6:40 a.m. est december 5, 2003
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The DeBary Spanish-speaking congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses recently tried to help Carrasquillo with his drug problem, and when he did not cooperate, he was expelled from the church, Muriel said.
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JW suspect in triple murder
by DevonMcBride inhttp://www.wftv.com/news/2684618/detail.html
police name suspect in triple murder
posted: 6:40 a.m. est december 5, 2003
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??twisted motive for these murders." ?
He was reproved for his behaivor, most likely some time prior to the murder...
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CBS NEWS FRIDAY 6:30 PM
by one inabout predatory lending, pyramiding fees etc
ocwen federal bank is a monster
the powrful ftc (federal trade comission) took fairbank to court,
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About predatory lending, pyramiding fees etc
Ocwen Federal Bank is a monster
The powrful FTC (Federal Trade Comission) took Fairbank to court,
Ocwen most likey next
Class action initiated in Hartford Conn. and California
'watch your mortgage company...
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The government of the New System is already in place
by truthseeker inare you still waiting for god's government to begin ruling?
are you still hoping that divine rulership is nearly here?
do you long for the time when jehovah will 'set matters staright among the nations'?.
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It has been in place for a long time. No kidding they really beleive it, have it all figure out and truly operational to a great extend.
Even jobs positions (elder etc) go hi up (legislature) for approval.
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I am tired...
by iiz2cool inedited to add that this is not original material, but a post i found on a toronto job search newsgroup.
some of the original work was removed because of potentially offensive content.
but i can definitely relate to some of the sentiments here.. walter.
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Anyone got tired of the WT BS?
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JW changes over time
by larc inas many of you know, i am 63, and left the religion about 40 years ago.
i was raised in it and would like to explain what it was like compared to today.
first of all, back in the mid to late 40's the patriotism of the u.s. was very high and the treatment at the door was very harsh.
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Ban on smoking < 1970 (went into effect before 1970)
More disfellowshipping after 1970 was due to more rules,
greater membership and general family breakdown.
BUT imo, a ttitude of members really changed after "1975". Members lost respect, it was too much..., the whole movement lost its motive and foundation.
Then new light was published during 1995
about the 1914 ?generation?, at the right time.
After Freddy?s death.
20 years after their major mistake.
And just long eunogh before the new millennium.
Extended ?short memory? problems may be affecting the loyal old timers.
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What Makes A Person Black?
by Englishman inobviously athletes linford christie and carl lewis are black.
but how about persons of mixed parentage, are they considered to be black too?.
how about my son's old girl friend whose grandmother was from the phillipines, is she black because her skin had a slight (and very beautiful) brownish glow that came from her ancestor?.
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Should a subtopic be "Evotuion v. Creation" , for those interested in the real 'deep' issue and original forum objective.
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questions about 1975 and other dates
by Leander inmy wife and i were discussing the date of 1975 earlier this week and she basically was of the opinion that the individuals who thought the end was coming in that year came up with the date based on their incorrect assesment of published information.
i replied that would it make sense for thousands of people across the continent to sell their homes and all of their valued possesions if they really had the slightest doubt that armageddon was not coming in 1975. she did'nt have an answer for that retort but still she insisted that somehow these people must have made a mistake in their judgement.
so for those of you who may have lived through the 1975 fiasco and those who have in-depth knowledge about the events that took place in that year maybe you can answer a few questions for me.. how widespread was the belief that 1975 was the year of armageddon?
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Freddy was the WT chronologist and oracle.who live until around 1991, how could he?
He proved to be 'different' in many ways.
Knor the previous WT president droped dead right after the 1975 fiasco.
Same for Russel with the 1914 fiasco, he died in 1916.
Apology? what apology?
As an institution they didn't, the indivicual responsible for 'publishing' the crap didn't.
The WT institution did not even mention their names ! is that a real apology?
What more what have they done to compensate the damages?
did they provide any PRACTIAL advise at least?.no, just more of the same 'spiritual' rethoric.
Man, at least Jesus.provided some fish for the multitude that got hungry after listening to him.
20th century jw went hungry and broke after listening to the wt for so long.
To this very same day i see ex=pioneers staying alive thanks to gov and APOSTATE help, some were cong financial pilars who 'gave everthing away' to serve where....
When history is not properly teached it repeats itself.
But the web is good history teaching tool available to many. I can read see and listen to stuff, such as Freddy speech, without moving my ...
Do jw families still take their cassette recorders to D conventions?
If not, why not?
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