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  The Blood Issue

  by dutyfree in

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  i have a question about the infamous blood issue, which i am sure will be very easy for some people to answer.. in the bible, niv, nwt, kj or whatever, the line, '...you should abstain from blood...' is taken literally by the witnesses and they do not take into account other scriptures whilst reading it.. what other scriptures are there in the bible to support the theory that the writer's intended meaning was not to take it literally?

  so, in other words, i have argued with jws that it means to not drink blood as there were no iv needles around then to inject the blood into the veins.

  but are there any other scriptures to back this up?.

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  This scripture in Matt 12:10-12 pretty much sums up the silliness of a "blood issue"(there is no issue). Am I missing something here? Please tell me if I am. Please!

  10 and, look! a man with a withered hand! So they asked him, "Is it lawful to cure on the Sabbath?" that they might get an accusation against him. 11 He said to them:"Who will be the man among you that has one sheep and, if this falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not get hold of it and lift it out? 12 All considered, of how much more worth is a man than a sheep! So it is lawful to do a fine thing on the Sabbath."

  Even Jesus realized that there are exceptions to the law. Especially if human life is on the line.
  How can the Society ignore this lesson from Jesus? How can they so rigidly enforce a law over basic mercy? I simply cannot understand how they can actually keep members in the face of dead kids.
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  Yeah Yeah I'm back

  by joelbear in

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  i couldn't stay away.

  i love you guys.. abaddon's and ldh's recent posts hit close enough to home that i decided to post again.. i think the selected memory and split personalities go hand in hand.. the selected memory helps keep the cult personality happy and gleaming no matter what damage the suppression does to the real human or the real human's family and friends.. a couple of years ago i was talking about my childhood with my parents and they both acted stunned when i said i was still angry with them because they didn't want me to go to college (i gave up several scholarship offers, etc.

  to become a pioneer and eventually go to bethel).

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  13 to 1 Hey JoelB!!
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  Check this out/help me out

  by openminded in

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  my mother sent this to me.

  how would you respond.. correcting wrong impressions .

  with human society.

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  My mother sent this to me. How would you respond.

  Correcting Wrong Impressions

  Still, there are people who accuse Jehovah's Witnesses of being out of step
  with human society. This is mainly because of the Witnesses' Bible-based
  position on such matters as blood transfusions, neutrality, smoking, and
  morals. But the public is increasingly beginning to admit that the views of
  the Witnesses have merit. For example, a doctor in Poland phoned the
  administrative office of Jehovah's Witnesses and said that she and her
  colleagues at the hospital had for several hours been debating the subject of
  blood transfusions. The discussion was triggered by an article that appeared
  that day in the Polish daily Dziennik Zachodni. "I personally regret that
  blood is overused in the medical field," the doctor admitted. "This must be
  changed, and I am happy someone has broached the subject. I would like more
  information."

  During a conference held last year, medical authorities from Canada, Europe,
  Israel, and the United States discussed material designed to help doctors
  treat patients without the use of blood. It was pointed out at this meeting,
  held in Switzerland, that contrary to popular opinion, the mortality rate of
  patients who received blood transfusions is actually higher than that of
  patients who did not. Witness patients were generally able to leave the
  hospital sooner than those treated with blood, which in turn usually cut down
  the cost of treatment.
  
  Thanks in Advance Openminded
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  I could use some help

  by openminded in

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  i need any printed wt material posted that you would consider an direct attack on the catholic church.. thanks in advance - openminded

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  These are great!(keep em coming PLEASE) Ill use everything I can. I want to put a nice package together for my mother who claims the WT has never attacked another religion.
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  I could use some help

  by openminded in

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  i need any printed wt material posted that you would consider an direct attack on the catholic church.. thanks in advance - openminded

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  I need any printed WT material posted that you would consider an direct attack on the Catholic Church.

  Thanks in advance - Openminded
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  ARE AVERAGE JWs DECEPTIVE?

  by Amazing in

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  i ask this because on this and other forums that have a large share of former jws, our stated experiences and encounters during and after our jw membership seem to reflect that the wts and its body of believers are most corrupt.

  likewise, those never associated who read our posts may get the impression that even visiting a kingdom hall may result in serious negative events.. i believe that it is important to remind everyone that the average jw is a generally good person.

  most try to live good lives, act on their beliefs, and promote what they feel is the truth.

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  Alan- this is how my JW mother responded to your thread. How would you reply? Anyone

  I agree that there may "things" an adherent may go along with that they do
  not necessarily have a personal conviction about. I think this is perhaps
  true no matter what 'religion' a person attaches themselves to.

  But I do personally believe that if a person, for whatever reason, does not
  want to align themselves with a particular religious organization it is
  sufficient to leave. To continue to attack the religion and to justify their
  position in doing so serves no useful purpose. It is better for me to see
  the fallacy of my religion on my own than for someone to attempt to convince
  me by attacking it. For me that casts a dubiousness on the attacker.
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  To Mommy - re: New Light

  by Farkel in

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  mommy,.

  in another thread you stated to me,.

  : my mother, when we spoke said that she beleives the org should have new information come out(new light brighter and brighter).

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  Thank You Fark
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  Can anyone confirm this WT Quote?

  by TR in

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  :"the apostle paul was spearheading the christian missionary.

  activity.

  he was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed.

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  TR- as far as I can see, all you have done is pointed out an obvious fact. Perhaps 200 years ago you may have found proof the earth was round. Many of your friends would not want to beleive it. Does that mean you just keep your mouth shut? Hell no! I recommend the fabel "The Emperor's Clothes" to your friend. It has a good plot and moral.
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  www.do-not-call.org

  by nicolaou in

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  on april 2nd i purchased the domain name www.do-not-call.org .

  a few weeks later i posted a comment on the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=3941&site=3.

  it was titled 'can you stop the preaching work?'.

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  count me in
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  Things That NEVER Made Sense To Me:

  by Englishman in

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  even when i was a dyed in the wool jw, there were a few things that never made any sense whatsoever to me.

  like most dubs, i glossed over them, here's my top 3 doubts during my period of dubdom, doubts that were never resolved:.

  "all scripture is inspired of god and beneficial for teaching".

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  openminded

  How about the "memorial". The whole thing seems silly. Invite a bunch of poeple over to obstain from the flesh and blood of their supposed savior.

  Or how about not letting sisters give regular talks. Letting them read the Bible in front of the congregation but not the Watchtower.

  Or taking the whole Bible into context and still refusing a dying child a life saving blood or organ transplant.

  Or making fun of the "clergy of Christendom" while helping the DO set up his $100,000 camper at the assembly site parking lot.

  The whole "Watchtower Study" on Sunday seemed bizaar to me(even as a born and raised dub".

  Quickbuilds? whats up with throwing together a poorly constructed building?