Posts by OrangeBlossom

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A funny thing happened at the book store

by OrangeBlossom in

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i recently ordered another copy of "in search of christian freedom" as i got rid of my first one (long story) and since it had been a couple of years since i read it, i decided to get another one.. since i live in a fairly small town, i decided to give a fake name, in case someone worked at the book store that might be a jw.

it was saturday morning (a time when all good little jw's should be in field service) so i felt it safe to go pick up my book.

i walk into the store and headed for the counter but was stopped in my tracks by an elder and his family.

OrangeBlossom

I recently ordered another copy of "In Search of Christian Freedom" as I got rid of my first one (long story) and since it had been a couple of years since I read it, I decided to get another one.

Since I live in a fairly small town, I decided to give a fake name, in case someone worked at the book store that might be a JW.

It was Saturday morning (a time when all good little JW's should be in field service) so I felt it safe to go pick up my book. I walk into the store and headed for the counter but was stopped in my tracks by an elder and his family. I chit-chatted with them for a while and hoped they would leave. They didn't so I walked around for a while, grabbed some coffee and waited. And waited. They wouldn't leave so I picked up a cook-book and headed to the counter to pay for it. They were in the back of the store so I thought it would be safe to go ahead and ask for my "Christian Freedom" book.

Everything was going good, I'm paying for my 2 books when who walks in but a sister from the other hall. I could have died. I left my money on the counter and went over and hugged her to try to keep her from seeing what I was purchasing.

Whew!!! I made it. Just made me a little paranoid, though.

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Escaped with my life!

by truman in

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i wanted to give an update to all those who kindly offered suggestions on how to deal with my jw son's ultimatum' "go tell the elders, or i will".. these last few days have been an intense crash course in life for me.

having experienced my firstborn son, whom i gave birth to, wiped his behind, dried his tears, and helped to grow to adulthood with loving support, threaten to turn me over to the "authorities" (elders) for wrong thinking and wrong speech, has been a deeply disturbing experience.

learning the truth about the "truth" was shocking, but this is just a crying tragedy.. after he found a short email from a board friend, which inadvertantly got into our regular email box instead of my private one, i was given a week to go to the elders.

OrangeBlossom

Truman, I feel for what you are going through. A couple of questions, please.

1) Do you think your son will ever change his mind about the organization?

2) Is he a MS or elder?

3) Does he go to the same congregation as you?

4) Did you take your screen-name from the Truman show. I think most of us feel like Truman, having every detail of our lives planned out for us, no way to escape.

I think I speak for most here on this post (you know the one's that I don't speak for) when I say, "we're here for you"

OB

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A nice bit of skirt on WOL

by expatbrit in

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i certainly hope all the independent thinking jezebels pay good attention to this one: http://www.witnessesonline.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/witnessesonline/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=18&t=000030.

suggestion to simon: before allowing the women to login on the new site, they should submit a pictures showing that their skirts are of approved length, i.e.

9 inches above the knee.. expatbrit

OrangeBlossom

That is just sad!

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Marlon Wayans

by Kent in

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marlon wayans, co-star of scary movie, is co-host of the mtv video music awards on sept. 7.. by joel stein; marlon wayans .

q. i'm white, so i never saw the wayans brothers tv show.

was it any good?.

OrangeBlossom

A "fly girl" was a dancer on the TV show, "In Living Color" created by Keenan Ivory Wayans and featured all of the Wayan children and others. It was a very funny show. Made fun of everyone. That is where Jennifer Lopez got her start, as a "fly girl."

If you live in the US, the reruns are on one of the syndicated stations, not sure which one.

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Don't watch 'Survivor'?

by philo in

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possible reasons for a jw not watching 'survivor' .

ritualism.

occasional 'sexual' content.

OrangeBlossom

Those are all the reasons why I did not miss one single episode. I was addicted! To make matters worse, it fell on the night of our school and service meeting. That means I missed 13 Thursday night meetings in a row, more if you add the ones I missed before and after. Come to think of it, I've only been to 1 Thursday nite meeting in about 6 months. No wonder I'm "spiritually sick."

P.S. Does this mean I'm not a "real JW?"

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Why are JW women so loyal to the Borg?

by beroea in

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why are jw women so loyal to the borg?.

during the last 12 year i have been doing a lot of research about mainly the chronology of jw about the year 1914. my family are still in and very active and i serve still as elder.

my research has make me dropped the whole chronology about the year 1914 and also the authorities of dfs/gb.

OrangeBlossom

"Because if she were to believe the evidence about the organization that I present to her, that would threaten the very existence of her being. She does not know her identity apart from the Borg and has no wish to seperate from the organization that gives her this identity."

That is soooooo true of so many people I know. Being a witness means isolating yourself from anyone not a witness. That is why it is important for anyone considering leaving to start making friends on the outside and gradually get involved in other things besides the witnesses.

For Bereoa, maybe you can find some kind of activity for you and your wife to get involved in where you can meet nice non-witness people. If she sees others outside the congregation as being Christian, perhaps she will open up to what you are sharing.

Growing up in the borg, and even those that come in at a later age, are all conditioned to believe that anyone not a witness is evil. I work for a couple that are Southern Baptists and they have better morals and genuine kindness than most of the witnesses I have ever known. They are always looking for ways to help others in need.

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McVeigh vs Death Penalty

by Amazing in

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i am a policitcal conservative, at least a fiscal conservative and sociel moderate.

i support the death penalty, but i agree that our judicial system needs to overhaul how wwe treat criminals to achieve better rehabilitation results.

and of course, withhold the death penalty in cases where there could be doubt.. in mcveigh's case, i believe that he deserves the death penalty.

OrangeBlossom

I hope the victims of the Oklahoma bombing can now find closure and begin rebuilding their lives to whatever extent possible. No one can truly rebuild with the loss of a loved one, but if they can continue on in their lives a little easier now, with this person gone, then I am happy for them. He is one person who had control of his death, 168 people did not.

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Why are JW women so loyal to the Borg?

by beroea in

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why are jw women so loyal to the borg?.

during the last 12 year i have been doing a lot of research about mainly the chronology of jw about the year 1914. my family are still in and very active and i serve still as elder.

my research has make me dropped the whole chronology about the year 1914 and also the authorities of dfs/gb.

OrangeBlossom

It is a very slow process to help someone see things differently. But, my personal opinion is that women are by nature, more loyal than men. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule but in most cases, I think women will stick by someone or something even if it is flawed. Men are more practical and logical, therefore, when they see something wrong, they are more apt to change.

Be patient with your wife. My husband started doubting long before I did. I used to get so upset with him for missing a meeting, resorting to not speaking to him for days. Finally, little bits and pieces of things he said, as well as things my father had said in the past, began to sink in. Our brains are like computers that store these bits of information. Eventually, it links together and causes us to stop and think about things. In my case, too many things just did not add up anymore.

As I said before, it is a very slow process. Be patient. Just keep dropping pieces of information to her. If she is as smart as you say, it will all fit together someday and she will hopefully come around to your way of thinking.

Another thing about women...they like to put down roots. She has devoted a lot of time, energy and emotion to this religion. She probably is not ready to dig them up and start over with making new friends.

OB

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JUSTICE #6 - Stumbling the Least of These

by Amazing in

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woe to those who stumble the least of these .

"let he who is without sin cast the first stone" .

[note: this is a sickening story, and goes to the heart of why many youth among jws end up leaving their religion.

OrangeBlossom

Un-Freekin-Believable!

My dad use to have a saying concerning masturbation..."Anyone who says they never did, still does." I miss that old coot! May he rest in peace.

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Very important notice hits JW boards

by expatbrit in

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i now realize that the reason i left was because i just couldn't deal with all the important issues: http://www.greatcrowd.com/159ubb/forum22/html/000161.html.

expatbrit

OrangeBlossom

Is that the same Sunshine that posts here sometimes?