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  Biology Lesson for the gals

  by Francois in

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  elsewhere in the active topics list is a great post from wasasister dealing in a very wise manner with women's hormonal cycle.

  the viewpoint and outlook contained in her post was to my mind very well done, thoughtful, considerate, and made a number of points that would be helpful to keep in mind in dealing with the male/female dynamic.. so i hope (and believe) that wasa won't mind if i use her post to springboard to one of my own - the mirror image of hers.. wasa makes a very good point in saying that women are jerked around by the hormones in their blood every month.

  and lots of us know at least one woman whose pms reaches truly epic proportions.

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  Where can I get an injection of testosterone?
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  Survey

  by Vienna in

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  how many on this board are: a) christains--not a jw b) jehovah's witnesses c) do not believe in god d) have a belief in god but just not active in anything right now.

  i'm new to the board and was curious as to everyone's standing.

  i'm 30, a christain, i left the jws 3 years ago (after being in it for 21 years) to follow jesus and heard of, among other good things, this great thing called: grace!

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  OrangeBlossom

  Even though I still go to the occasional meeting, to keep family happy, I consider myself a Christian. I believe Christ gave his life for ALL mankind, not just JW's. After that, I'm not sure.
  Do we go to heaven when we die? Don't know!
  Will we be resurrected back to earth? Don't know!
  Is God a trinity? Don't think so but who am I to dispute!
  Is there a burning hell? Don't think so!

  I guess I will find out the answer to all these questions when I buy the farm...or maybe not!
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  Concept of the future

  by OrangeBlossom in

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  growing up in the borg, planning for the future was never thought of for me or my family.

  for instance, i heard things like, .

  "you'll never go to school" .

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  OrangeBlossom

  Growing up in the borg, planning for the future was never thought of for me or my family. For instance, I heard things like,
  "you'll never go to school"
  "armageddon is right around the corner"
  "you'll never graduate"
  "you'll never get married"
  "you'll never have children"
  "your children will never go to school"
  etc, etc, etc.

  Now that my whole concept of life has changed and here I sit in my 40's with no retirement plan, because I wasn't suppose to need one, it really pisses me off. I still find it hard to think about 10 years down the road. We're are trying to think about retirement now, and put some money away, investments, etc.

  Does anyone else have a problem with the concept of armageddon not coming next year?
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  What Caused Your First Doubt ?

  by Big Jim in

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  for me it was when i was about twelve years old and my best friends dad was disfellowshipped from the congregation.. i could not understand how a god of love would treat someone so coldly.. i used to think what if that was the way my parents would treat me if i had done something wrong, that would be so hard and cruel.. as i got older another thing that bothered me was the beard issue.

  it may sound pretty trivial however the society has always refused to make a good arguement as to why they would give you the old cold shoulder if you were to grow one.. two more items; first i could not understand why all the congregations and all the assemblys would give income reports.

  and the society never did.

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  Mulan, for me it was the study of "the Greatest Man" but for a different reason. During the study of the Pharisees I immediately connected them with the elders of my congregation and began to wonder if Jehovah had turned his back on the organization because of their dogmatic, hard-hardedness attitude, obey the rules, follow the org no matter what, straining the gnat and swallowing the camel. Jesus said you would know his diciples by the love among themselves and I just didn't see or feel it and hadn't for a long time.

  Also, during the Revelation book, I could never accept that different prophetic events, trumpet blowings, etc. were related to the different conventions throughout rhe years. I just couldn't buy it.

  Then there was the money issue. Building new, expensive Kingdom Halls, Assembly Halls, Patterson when the brothers in Africa would have 50 congregations sharing 1 hall. I felt the GB was losing sight of the more important things.

  Add to that about 50 other nagging doubts and pretty soon you have a full-blown doubt.

  Then one night while looking for the society's web site I came across a site that talked about elder's looking for reform. That was a light-bulb moment for me. I realized at that moment that I was not alone in my doubting and that even elders saw things wrong with the org.

  From there I took the plunge and read "Crisis of Conscience" and "In Search of Christian Freedom" and it was pretty much over for me, even tho I still pretend in order to keep my family. BTW, anyone that has not read those two books, I highly recommend them. It completely released me from tremendous guilt that I had carried around for years because I felt that I could never measure up.

  Didn't mean to make this so long. Just couldn't stop once I got started. Hope it makes sense.
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  Elders appointed by Holy Spirit?

  by LadyBug in

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  amazings justice points brings me to this point.

  elders truly believe that they are appointed by gods spirit.

  so when they appoint someone who is:.

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  I love this subject. In fact the other night hubby and I had this very same discussion with some friends (active JW's who still believe it is the truth) at dinner. Hubby asked them if they felt elders were appointed by holy spirit. A very emphatic NO was their reply.

  I have had the DISpleasure of being around too many "spirit-appointed" elders. I think Amazing posted recently about how appointments are really made. He was right on the money. I've seen it over and over again. I have seen good elders removed because their child made a mistake (child now back in good standing), never to be reappointed and other elders reappointed because they threw good parties, or were good drinkers and who's children never straightened up. I've heard of others (deserving, IMHO) never being appointed for lame reasons such as, "we considered you but your children do not record their field service, we see them out in service but they do not turn in their time, therefore, we feel you should not be appointed at this time. No lie! This guy is still not an elder, even though his son was appointed in another congregation. He remains humble and keeps plugging along.
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  Macon Ga convention dates

  by joelbear in

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  i think i just want to go and wander around.

  with my beard i'll stick out.

  maybe some cute attendant will shadow me into the bathroom.. woofy hugs.

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  Joel, I don't know when the Macon assembly is but St. Petersburg is in July (mine is around the 17th). If you are going to go as far as Macon but might as well go a little further south. You might even run into your old buddy John. Let me know if you come, I might go to it and meet you.

  OB
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  Update on elder's visit

  by OrangeBlossom in

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  last saturday i posted that the elders keep coming by to "encourage" us.

  but wouldn't you know it, sunday morning as i am trying to enjoy a nice breakfast with the family, the doorbell rang.

  pissed me off, but this time the husband was home so i told him to go talk to them and tell them that being raised in the borg, we know what we should be doing and don't need them to tell us, which he did.

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  Last Saturday I posted that the elders keep coming by to "encourage" us. Well Saturday came and went without a visit. But wouldn't you know it, Sunday morning as I am trying to enjoy a nice breakfast with the family, the doorbell rang. Pissed me off, but this time the husband was home so I told him to go talk to them and tell them that being raised in the borg, we know what we should be doing and don't need them to tell us, which he did. (BTW, what we should be doing is staying the hell away from them, but I can't help how they might have understood that). I stayed in the bedroom. They agreed that there wasn't anything they could say to us that we didn't already know.

  Anyway, we had already planned on going to the KH that day (only for the purpose of keeping mumsy happy) which we did. I also had gone to the Thursday meeting last week. 2 in a row, what was I thinking!!! I was shocked at how few were there. Thursday night there were only about 60 people (congregation has at least 120 publishers) and Sunday there were 90 for the talk, even less for the WT study. The CO is coming around sometime this month so I predict some ass-whoopings.

  I'm going to try to go to every meeting until after his visit so they won't feel the need to bring him over for a shepherding call. After that I will ease off gradually.
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  What is your favorite nickname for the Society?

  by slipnslidemaster in

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  i've heard the borg alot.

  one of the recent posts had the matrix.

  some the firm.. i think that i like the matrix, so far.. what's yours?.

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  OrangeBlossom

  I will add my 2-cents worth.

  I am partial to "the Borg." As was mentioned earlier, it seems the most appropriate. Plus I'm a star trek fan.
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  boob jobs and sisters

  by jurs in

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  warning: this is a very shallow post.

  now that i'm out, i'm trying to see the humor of my past life as a jw.

  when i was new in the truth , only baptized 4 months, i became good friends with this one sister.

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  P.S.

  My boobs look and feel every bit as natural as they did before. They are not rock-hard like some girls and while I am quite large, I could have gone way bigger but preferred to stay natural looking. I bet you would not be able to tell that I have implants (saline, not silicone) if you saw me naked, which you won't as I'm not into exibitionism.
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  Question for any elder/recent ex-elder

  by OrangeBlossom in

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  the elders keep dropping by every couple of saturday's after bookstudy to check on us and try to encourage us back to meetings.

  it has worked out that my husband has been gone when they visit so they keep coming back hoping to catch him sometime.

  anyway, i told my hubby that we should at least go to the meetings once a week to keep them off our trail, which i went this past thursday night and wouldn't you know it the one elder approached me and mentioned that they still want to sit down with us and go over an article on meeting attendance.

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  OrangeBlossom

  Thanks for all of the suggestions.

  Joelbear, you were right on the money when you said that you have a feeling relatives are putting them up to it. BINGO!

  As for moving away, that is not an option for us right now. We just bought this house a few months ago, my husband's business and my job are both here.

  We just moved into this congregation when we bought house, so the idiot elders that made the thoughtless, insensitive comments were in previous congregations spanning a period of about 10 years. One comment in itself would not have affected me, however, if you line them all up, after a while it makes you start wondering. Which is what I did. I started questioning thinks primarily on the behavior of "spirit-appointed" men and other things.

  But I think I may have come up with a solution...

  I told my husband that the next time they come by or approach us say this,

  We appreciate you wanting to encourage us, however, both of us were raised in the truth, we know what we are suppose to do. We just have to get our priorities in order. There really isn't anything you can say to us that we have not already heard, it's really going to be up to us to get back to the meetings on a regular basis.

  We actually said this to 2 elders in a previous congregation and their response to that was that we "obviously lacked appreciation for spiritual things." They left us alone after that, but then we moved.

  Amazing, thanks for your input. I always find your posts extremely enlightening.