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Salty Streaks

by joannadandy in

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so what do you do when someone makes you cry?do you let them see?do you pretend you have something in your eye?do you change the subject/blow it off?do you have it out right then and there?do you never speak to them again?do you try and make them cry?

orangefatcat

Most of my life I have been very sensitive, I can't prevent myself from crying, I cry when I am happy, when I sad, when I am watching animals, and when I see new life, watching baby kittens being born and when squirrel and chipmunks play on our front lawn. I cry when I see the saddnes of the world and the tears of children and adults who are hungry. I cry at aged seniors trying to get about. I cry for those sick in the hospital. I can't help myself that is just how I am. No one else is like this in my entire family. When my husband and I drive down a road and I see dead animals I start crying. When I see the police at an accident site I cry for the victims. When I see a wedding I cry with tears of joy. I'd rather cry these tears than any other kind. Some times I look at my husband and go to the bathroom and cry and feel how blessed I am that I have had a second chance at happiness. I cry everytime i see my son and thank God he survived meningitis and I cry with joy that he has always brought me all the joy a mother could have in a live time. I cry for the silentlambs and those who are being abused and who have been abused.

Ruby Tuesday.................I cry for you because you were not allowed to cry.(((((((((((((((((((((((((hugs and kisses))))))))))))))))))))))))

Crying is the greatest thing for my well being and it keeps me sane and I know when I cry that I am alive and can enjoy life to the fullest for another day.

Perhaps one day I may meet up with any one of you and just for a brief moment tears will flow down my cheeks, because I will remember everything I have read about you in this discussion board and will be delighted with happiness that we will share a brief moment in time.

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Do Jws help disfellowshipped ones or apostates?

by haujobbz in

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do you think that, if say you fell over and and seriously injured yourself in the street, would a jw you knew passing by help you knowing that you were disfellowshipped or so called apostate.

maybe even come to see you at home if you were unwell or depressed,i mean how many witnesses have assisted or helped you when you needed it mostly,you see i thought they were supposed to encourage you to become so called spiritually stronger.but saying that when you were active as a jw do you think you were helped in times of distress or illness by your fellow jw,for instance i know a woman who's still a witness but hasnt been to meetings for say a year and thats because she has severe athritis and guess what only 1 j-dub has wrote to her so to her it seems like if your not a regular at meeting you may as well be classed as disfellowshipped.

orangefatcat

NO

WAY!!

Edited by - orangefatcat on 23 July 2002 21:49:29

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Where are you ?

by sunshineToo in

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in which part of the planet are you?

i'm in the sf bay area, ca, u.s.a. i have been there for 17 years.. how about you?

orangefatcat

I am from Newmarket Ontario, which is just about 40 minutes north of Toronto on Highway 11. Our town use to be nice, but now they have some many new homes here and last wk our town had their first vicious daytime rape. How sad, from a population of 50,000 a few yrs ago to now over 80,000. I am sad and we want to move where it is more peaceful and quite.

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WHAT'S THE WORSE THING YOU DID AT THE MEETING?

by Mary in

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i would have to say the worst (aka: funniest) thing i ever did at a meeting was when i sat with the circuit overseer and his wife (many moons ago......) .

anyway, he was really prim and proper and she was of course, a very submissive wife who barely spoke without her husbands permission.

anyway, he goes to the platform and starts off by asking th audience: who was ahab?

orangefatcat

At a circuit assembly in montreal many moons ago, in a high school auditorium I had my tape recorder on. any way for some reason I somehow ended up rewinding the tape and then it stopped so I pushed play and the volume was so high it was heard through out the whole auditorium, and of course everyone is looking to see where this sound is coming from, and I am trying like hell to shut it off and I can't find the dam volume and by now I am a nervous wreck and everyone who is sitting around me are laughing and I'm freaking out. I jumped out of my seat and you never seen anyone run out of a room so fast in your life. It was an experience I will never forget.

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Amway, Quixtar, etc. vs. WTS

by Larry in

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amway, quixtar, and other mult-level marketing schemes vs. wts.. if there is anything an ex-jw cult member would recognize, it would be another cult!

i say that b/c my uncle is an 'hardcore' quixstar member (ibo) and the more i talk to him the more similarities i see btw quixtar and the borg.

of course he doesn't see quixtar being cult-like but to some one on the outside looking in the organizations mirror each other.

orangefatcat

yes indeed Amway is a cult , Quixtar Amway's sister company as they told us, when I was in Amway is as weird as Amway. Amway have advocates who encourage bible tapes and classes in the US. and stress high moral standards among their people. They are extremely pushing with their products, like the Watctower and to me I would say that they are all 100 percent CULT. They endeavor to control your mind with their thoughts and try to make yesbots out of their people. Materialism is paramount to them, as Sprituality is to JWs..

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Scotitish News-Church 'harbouring fiends'

by silentlambs in

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the scottish news of the world .

church 'harbouring fiends'

jehovah's witnesses storm

orangefatcat

Bill it seems as if the message is being spread far and wide and the WTBS is being exposed for covering up terrible atrocities against children who have now grown up and who are not afraid to speak up. Your courage and that of the no longer silentlambs has made a deep impression on the minds of many persons in communities all over the world.

People are taking a second look at Jehovah's Witnesses. My Aunt who is not a JW and never wants to be one watched Dateline at my recommendation as both her sisters, (my mother) and her other sister are JW's and my aunt said she was quite amazed that this has happened among JWs as they always portray themselves as better than other religions of the world, saying they have the truth. And that they have high moral standards.

So Dateline and Panarama will continue to echo all around the world, as these issues will never come to an end as the lambs shout out their message and seek their justice. I know this will be truly victorious for all of you. I wish you the best of luck on the up coming march in NewYork in September, wishing deeply I could be there with all of you, but alas it is not possible due to living on a pension.

To you and the Silentlambs may your courage be a shining light to all who look upon you from the four corners of the world. Blessings to you all.

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MANDATORY REPORTERS OF CHILD ABUSE

by YoursChelbie in

according to the watchtower society's legal department, in some states the elders are "not required to report" allegations of child abuse among the members.

but what exactly are they not required to report?

the sinner's confession or the victim's allegation?

orangefatcat

you would think that any elder with a conscience would report a case of child abuse, no matter what. And yes I to believe that the Society uses the clergy privelge even though they aren't clerecial. Are they the offspring off vipers Jesus was refering to? Or the white washed graves with dead bones inside? Or are they the ones who say do this and that and yet they do the the opposite? Hmmmmmmmmm?

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Anderson Committee Move In For Kill

by silentlambs in

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well it appears the watchtower is back at their executions.

after jr brown besmirched her moral character by saying she was being disfellowshipped for other sins unrelated to the dateline program, now three men want to meet her at a motel?

why not the kingdom hall?

orangefatcat

Any JW in the world has a right to have a judical hearing in the Kingdom hall. They are up to something big here. Its called entrapment. They have an agenda thats for sure. They know full well no sister would ever meet with a jc of three men in a hotel rm or confrence rm. I personally believe that these elders with the aid of the legal dept. will have some sort of secret cameras and a tap going. I believe as others here too that Barbara should have a wire. she could check in the hotel the day before and explain to the hotel administator who she is and what is going to happen and let them guide her as to what measure of house security can be utilized for her protection should anything go awry. My advice is,

CAUTION CAUTION CAUTION CAUTION!!!!!

all the best Barbara, my thoughts are with you at this time..

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Jaracz is not important

by Kismet in

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while i understand the attention given to the 20 seconds of comments by jarcz and the damning arrogance he displayed, his role on panorama was not important.. the strength, the courage of the victims that spoke up on that show.

the raw courage it must have taken to back into the room under the house, to stand in front of a camera and talk about these despicable acts perpetrated against them, that was the most important thing.. i take my hat off and deeply respect the courage it took for these survivors, (i loved the sound clip from the candlelight vigil, regarding victim vs. survivor) to stand up and roar.. congrats to all involved in standing up to the borg.

as a caution tho, to all those that remain silent do not feel you have to become an advocate and media star in order to heal.

orangefatcat

Kismet I feel the same way as you do. What tremendous courage these survivors have and courage too. My heart goes out to them and I can only wish them all an inner peace that comes with healing. May your accusers and those who protected them get whats coming to them.

Orangefatcat

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JW related Pages on BBC Site (links)

by Simon in

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in no specific order: .

suffer the little children.

secret database protects pedophiles.

orangefatcat

Thank you Simon, I was just watching the Panaroma BBC show and what an excellent program. Boy with programs like this the Society will be running like jack rabbits.

One thing I learned and didn't know before was that the WTBS was one of the weathlist religions in the world. Not for long if we have our way with them. I hope the lambs take them for everything they've got.

Have I told you lately thanks for this discussion board and all your work you put into it for all of us and how much I appreciate myself.