Posts by orangefatcat

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When Life gets you down remember this

by orangefatcat in

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funny thing now that i am no longer a jw ,thank god for that , i can't imagine how i ever had time to be a witness, here is the scheduled life of jw's which i copied from another site and give them the recognitions it deserves, http://www.escapefromwatchtower.com/mind.html.

inundated with activity.

b.. attending the ministry school andservice meetings.

orangefatcat

Funny thing now that I am no longer a JW ,thank God for that , I can't imagine how I ever had time to be a witness, here is the scheduled life of JW's which I copied from another site and give them the recognitions it deserves, http://www.escapefromwatchtower.com/mind.html

	Inundated With Activity
		In a One Week Time Period
1.		Reading of a 30 page magazine.
2.	a.	Reading of the book study assignment.
	b.	Attending the book study.
3.	a.	Reading the ministry school and service meetings assignments.
	b.	Attending the ministry school and service meetings.
4.	a.	Reading the Watchtower study article.
	b.	Attending the Watchtower study.
5.		Preparation of talk assignments.
6.		Field service door to door preaching
7.		Kingdom hall cleaning assignments.
		Other Additional Assignments
1.		Kingdom hall building projects.
2.		Convention preparation service.
3.		Three yearly conventions, consisting of many consecutive hours.
4.		Bethel service.
5.		Pioneer meetings.
6.		Elder and Ministerial Servant meetings.
		Meetings Service

		What We Should Inundate
		Ourselves With:
1.		Faith and Trust in the Universal Ground of Being Alone.
2.		Love, Compassion and Forgiveness of Man.
3.		Personal Prayer, Solitude and Mediation.
4.		Personal Study of Different Sources: Theology, Philosophy, Psychology & etc.
		Religious Sacrifices Secondary

Thank God we don't have to do this anymore. Where did we find time to eat, sleep, go shopping out for a break and have sex? We were programmed like robots for sure.

Thank goodness we are all now free.

Orangefatcat

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My first JW encounter at the door in ages...

by Gregor in

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i am spending the week at my sons house in seattle to help him while recovering from knee surgery.

i answered the doorbell and it was a young woman by herself.

she read a scripture from james (can't remember) and offered me the a&w.

orangefatcat

When you said she offered you an A&W this immediately came to my mind.

Orangefatcat get serious will you you stupid dumb cat.... meowwwwwwwwwww

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They would rather wash their robes then follow Gods commandments

by bite me in

see for yourself if you already don't know that is.

in place of "doing his commandments" in rev 22:14 nwt states .. wash their robes..".

what is the purpose for that change?

orangefatcat

Bite me you are indeed right, I don't think your trying to stir up an arguement, you are merely showing the diversifaction in different translations, But it all works out pretty much to the same meaning.

Orangefatcat

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did anyone on here ever have a paedophile in thier congregation?

by looloo in

if so, did it bother you that he had been reprooved and forgiven rather than reported to the police?

orangefatcat

I knew of one in our congregation and when I moved to the town I now reside there was an overseer he'd been a missionary with his wife in Africa. After moving back from that country he was eventually disfellowshipped, it was a well known fact that he had molested some really beautifl young sisters.

What sicko's, I believe it was only corrected on a congregational level , I don't think he ever went to jail. He should have for what he'd done both in Africa and in my town

I loathe men like that. They need their gonads chopped off. Yet that still is to good for them.

Orangefatcat.

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UK Charity Law Changes

by Paddington Bear in

you may or may not be aware but the charites act 2006 is now in force and it means that from end 2007 charites (including the jw's) will have to proove that they offer public benefit if they are to still retain their charitable status and in turn get gift aid on nearly every single donation and keep their tax exempt status.. the charity law association made some very interesting comments regarding the witnesses in their memorandum that was submitted in evidence to the joint commitee on the draft charites bill.

their comments on the taylorite sect of the exclusive brethren "excluding children from the family home" is also quite relevant.

this is only enidence from an outside body but it shows things could change.. http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/jt200304/jtselect/jtchar/167/4061625.htm.

orangefatcat

Be that as it may I don't think they will find JWs to be a truly charitable organization. I concur with the poster who mentioned their recent track record, and with millions of dollars in laws suits against the organizaiton I can't possibly see them recieving a dime.

They barely help thier own members they are never their except in emergencies but it is only to assist fellow JW.s and it is about time they started making cults pay taxes on their properties and holdings.

For sure it this was to occur in the USA I think it would bankrupt the WTBTS.

Do keep us posted Paddington Bear.

Orangefatcat.

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Can I please be the first to say...

by sweetface2233 in

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happy birthday tj - iamcleared2land.

here is a link to his story, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/150796/1.ashx one of the most heart wrenching i have heard in my entire life.. jwd has his birthday showing as today, january 20th, however it is really tuesday, january 22nd.

also, for those who have read his thread (and if you havent, i highly encourage that you do) his sister's birthday is monday, january 21st...tomorrow!

orangefatcat

TJ, have a wonderful Birthday and may your special day be filled with happiness and love. Have a huge piece of cake and I will be thinking of you because I am a birthday cake lover. Especially if it white cake with butter cream icing. That is the ultimate.

Enjoy your special day

love Orangefatcat

alt

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Newbies Exiting the Witnesses - How Do You Feel ? Steve Hassan Explains

by flipper in

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hello folks, how are you ?

i am just about done reading the steve hassan book, " combatting cult mind control".

thought i would share some of the points here for newbies and all others to see just what a person exiting a cult, or jehovah's witnesses might go through psychologically so they can better know how to deal with the various emotions of anger, guilt , and sadness that can accompany leaving the witnesses.

orangefatcat

I am not a newbie exiting the witnesses, but I will tell you how I felt when I left. I was bloody scared. I left my ex husband on Dec,24/99 and the organization on the same day. I was secretly hidden from everyone for several days until I was ready to speak to my soon to be ex and to my family. It took me days to get that courage to go to them and tell them, Funny thing, when I left that day I had no idea where it would take me but it had to be better then being in that rotten orgnization for 38years. I felt pains litereal panic attack pains, thinking it was my heart I saw the doctor. He was my biggest backer and supporter. If it hadn't been for him listening to me for years about my being a JW I think I would have had a brain explotion. I am not joking either. My life was a living hell.

I had just bought a second hand computer. but I let my son keep it as I felt he deserved it. He was highly suportative of my decision to leave the witnesses, he was 21 and he knew I was at the end of my rope. He told me to go and leave dad and find a happy life outside of the witnesses. He himself never believed it was the truth. The kid was smarter than mom. I am so glad to have such a supportive son. Eventually when I was able to aquire another computer, thanks to the new man in my life I went digging into the internet hoping to find something about the JW's. Wow was I suprised to see so many sites about exjw's it was like a feast before my eyes. I couldn't help but say okay God please you have got me this far help me now as to where I should turn. The first place I came to was here. I looked around the board for a while and within a month I made my first post. I have never been happier and more content in my life, since leaving the witness cult and a crazy fanatical husband . I feel no quilt. I even refused to attend the Judical committee hearing and refused to meet one elder in person as a result I was disfellowshipped in absentia. The congregation elders are so blinded by the needs of people, all they want to do is lecture you, judge you and if some could they would execute you. I wasn't going to allow men to tell me what it was I should and shouldn't do.

I felt like the weight of that world was lifted from my shoulders. I felt happy, but trep'i·da'tiousmy internal stomach actually quivered for some time. After telling my husband after three days of disappearance (my son knew I was okay but couldn't divulge the whereabouts of the shelter)what my choice was in life he was sitting there on the chair with his mouth gapping openned while I told him that I will be leaving him and the organizaiton and he was flabberghasted. Oh he knew I had threatened to leave him over the 28 years of marriage he just didn't believe I was really going to finely do it. He begged pleaded and then said you had better contact your sisters and mother. He said have you no idea that we have been searching for you for three days. We called everyone that knew you and then called the police. The police said she is a grown women and obviously from the condtions in her bedroom she has left you. (there were boxes of my belongings and stuff piled neatly into the corner of my closet and all my clothes were in boxes too. The police said it appears sir she has left you). Yep that was what I did. I have never regretted what I chose to do and never regretted falling in love with the wonderful man who eventually become my beloved husband. Only to be taken away in death just six months ago.

My life has been fraught with ups and downs but the stigmatism of the WTS has still lingered in the recesses of my mind. That is why I am still here. Still looking for support and enjoying all the new friends I have met.

I have wonderful friends in jWD, many of whom I knew before leaving the witnesses and new ones I have met through Apostofests.

Yes newbies are fleeing the WTS in droves and you can't blame them as they in essence are no different then any other religion on this earth. They just like people to believe they are the right and have the true religion. But now things are catching up to them and it looks like their castle is tumbling down. Those who live in glass tower shouldn't throw stones.

Orangefatcat.

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I am new here, need a bit of help

by Velvetann in

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hi everyone, i was recommended to this place by "bigmouth" at least i think thats her handle.

grace from canada.

she is a sweetie.

orangefatcat

Hello Paula and welcome to the board. I use to have a friend by the name of Paula, She was a dear friend of mine.

Did you ever pioneer in Montreal and stay at my home while you went to the French class?? and if you are Paula from a Toronto cong. on Elsmere RD then for sure we know each other. I do so hope it is you.

If not, your still very welcome here and we can become friends as I too just live north of Toronto in Newmarket. Or do you live further north. PM me and let me know.

Orangefatcat

Terry

PS yes indeed mouthy is the tops and she is a real blessing to have on JWD. We knew each other in Mtl. too and we were in the same congregation. What a small world..

Ofc

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what is this about ??

by memphisbelle in

i have been a jw for thirty years, attending meetings at the same kh all this time.

about seven years ago, i began to wonder to myself if the jws were the only religion that god approves of.

six years ago, a very good childhood friend of mine died from a long illness, ( he was not a jw) and i was quite bothered by his death.

orangefatcat

That is what it is alright good old brainwashing. How could you possibly be held accountable if your daughter is 25, she is her own person. For you to be raked over the coals is propostirest.

I would have told those loving shepherds and with words of kindess oozing from their mouths that they have no right to interfere and to yell at you., Isn't that just Christian Like. Could you imagine Jesus taking you into another room and then start yelling at you so everyone can here and ream you out. I doubt that very much. It is rudeness and frankly none of their business, If they need to address this issue it shoud be with your daughter they speak with. She is no longer a child and they aren't her parents. Whats it all about CONTROL and then some.

If you have been feeling doubts, don't put them on a back burner and hope that it will work out, because it won't you are now seeing how ridiculous the elders are. Perhap a more indepth look at the organizaiton my give you a better prespective of their constant changes and let me tell you the t hings that you will learn will seem to good to be true, but they are true. You will see so many things in this discussion board that will show and prove to you that the witnesses do not have the rights to be sole surviviours of Armeggadon. There are many good links that people post here to back up the veracity of what is being said. Please for your sake and that of your family stay in touch in here and ask what ever you want and be assured we have all done our research. I welcome you to the board and hope you stay for quite awhile. If I may, I would like to recomment a good book to read it was written by Raymond Franz former GBmember, his book is entitled. "Crisis of Conscience", It is a wonderful and enlightening book. You will find that we recommend it to everyone who visits the site.

all the best and keep us posted

Orangefatcat.

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Ian (Dansk) in hospital with CMV

by Alleymom in

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hi, everyone ---.

claire asked me to let the board know that ian is back in the hospital and expected to be there for about a week.. those of you who have been following the weekly vigil thread know that his cmv has returned.

the virus is not responding adequately to the tablets, so ian needs to be medicated intravenously.. please keep ian and claire in your prayers.. marjorie.

orangefatcat

Ian and Claire you both are in my prayers. Please get well soon, You both are such lovely persons.

God keep you both in his everlasting love.

love

Orangefatacat