have fun, don't be to noticalbe. they may detect an apostate. we eminate a strange ordor. and we use anti-watchtower deodorant. Beware of the conductor his eyes are everywhere.
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In a few minutes, Moshe visits a KH bookstudy meeting.- I'm back
by moshe inwill he manage to make it for the entire hour of the bookstudy or will he open his mouth and - well, you know moshe!.
i am out of town and just thought i would see what has changed in the almost 20 years since i sat in on a kh meeting.
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What weird and wonderful Syndromes did the bros and sisters profess to have
by myababes inwhen i was in the organisation was in a few different congs.
every one always had a good proportion of them that claimed they had "me".
not sure what they call it in the states but think chronic fatigue may be similar.it had an age range between young teenagers and midle aged ones.
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One other popular syndromes that exist in alot of witnesses if Fibromyagia. It is one thing to say you have it and quite another to prove it. The process is long and alot of research goes into this conditon. I had to have several tests. and coordenations tests. and 11 of 18 inflamed trigger points. When the Awake magazine came out with this conditon everyone thought they had it. Goes to show you that the power of spoken article leads to so many self diagnosis' among witnesses. ME is similar Epstein Barr, and Mulan mentioned CFS, that was a biggy with the witnesses, every one CFS, in fact at every meeting it wasn't uncommon to hear some say oh I think I have CFS.
My mom asserted all the above mentioned condtions and added to that was Hept. C and Cancer and mono, it never ended with my mom, and she always got a lot of sympathy from the witnesses. My mom has Interstitial Cystitis. That is true. and she has had 93 surgerys to here her tell it. but they are not sugerys' they are procedures. I know this because I have had the same procedure done to me as this can be a familial conditon. The GYN told me no I don't have it or any indication of it. I know it is painful and it has been recorded that many a women has committed suicide because they are unable to deal with the pain. But all she ever does it complain constantly to anyone in the KH who will listen. I know that most wish my mom would stop going on and on about her illnesses. She is her own bigest enemy and if she just tried to get a hobby outside ot WTS dom she would more that likely think less of her conditon. But she won't hear of it. She would rather complain
I am highly suspect that most ailments JWs say they have are just in their own minds because t hey don't want to be out in the service all the time or be at the meetings all the time. That is how at least I believe it is. So yes this is my OP.
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the unkindest cut of all?
by chickpea innever believing that a foreskin was a birth defect, i left my sons intact...( called genital integrity in some circles).
what, if anything, makes circumcision less of a mutilation than fgm?.
dont kill the questioner!!
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SS I am with you on that issue. It is clean neat and I to liked it. However my son wasn't circumsized cause he was a premie and born with strept B menegitis. So the doctor said to me "certainly you wouldn't want to inflict any more pain on your baby and I said no and the doctor I had as a ped. was Jewish. He felt concerned with the pain factor for my son which I appreciated and he has never had any problems. My ex wasn't and I wouldn't have sex with him until he bathed because he never kept his penis clean and he would forever give me infections. When I married my second husband he was so clean and adorable I could have eaten him up. Sorry if that sounds gross.
But I think it is nice if the guy is and if not he'd better well keep his penis and clean. I couldn't stand the ignorance of my first husband. He had to told to take a bath , change his underwear. I was just sick to death of him. After fighting with him for 10years about his hygiene and my constant infections even though he said he'd washed was just too much so I pushed him out of my bed and for the next 18yrs I refused to have sex with him. He just didn't get it. Then he started taking regular bathes and washing he would beg for me to make love to him, I refuse on the grounds he was a man who had a mean and cruel side to him and he had to be told to bathe, what moron has to tell someone to take a bath and clean his penis everyday.
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My Current Battle
by KW13 inranting individuals need not reply.
i need encouragement and general advice, personal accounts etc.. am i a christian or am i not?
i've come to a point where i'm not sure whether or not i want to believe in anything, at the moment i'm confused as to whether i am a believer or whether i am someone recovering from indoctrination.. i feel that i've not had a 'pure' opportunity to decide if i want to be a believe and although the thought has been in the back of my mind, the conditioning has made me delay it and my current circumstances and poor health are forcing me to face it - i fear facing it will make me worse because its yet another thing i am not really mentally strong enough to deal with.. is it natural i fear what being an atheist means for me.
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I see that you are in a kind of crisis within yourself. I know what ever it is that you are seeking it will eventually come to be. Life and philosophy can become so complex can't it?
As regards to myself I am certain most of you know that I am a firm believer in God and if not well now you know. But that is me and my reason's are simply this, I can't think of existing without God being apart of my life. It took me serveral years after leaving the org. in 99 to decide my life isn't complete unless I have God. But not the God of the WTS, I use to think to myself all the time, certainly if JW's don't have the truth maybe it is this, that a little truth can be found in many faiths and walks of life. I can except that concept. I never believed the JW's had the rights to eternal life and God. I think that everywhere on this planet we can find God and some form of enlightenment. For some it means not going to church but again for me it is going to church. I guess it has something to do with my earlier years when I attended churches seeking something but didn't know what that was as I was merely 7 years old be? I knew that life had to start someplace and beauty had to come from a great source. As humans someone had to have made us. I went to church with my grandma after she found out that I had be attending several other churches on my own. My sister would hate going to Sunday School with me , because I always wanted to be with the adults. So to Sunday school first and then attend the services in the church. My grandma was adament that I attend the Anglican church as this is what we were for hundreds of years. Quite frankly I was happy being an Anglican and was ready for baptizm and confirmation. But alas something was brewing in the minds of my parents and I didn't like it. And I didn't like my father either. He was a brute and cruel man.
My parents scoffed at relgion. But mom never prevented me from seeking my own spiritual journey. But when my father sobered up he converted to the witnesses in 63, then he prevented me from attending church,oh no you must now go to a kingdom hall. Awe the kingdom hall. It was a journey but a journey that lead me in to a world of despair not of happiness like that which I expereinced all the time I attended church with my Grandma. I mean I was all of 13, Can I say to my parents no I don't want to go to a KH. ? Are you kidding me, he 'd killed me. I was devastated. I Didn't know why then but I know why now.
You see we all have to search our own hearts and minds as to what is best for us. If it is not going to church okay ,if going to church okay, being an athiest is somewhat difficult for me comprehend I don't grasp it, it is a complexity to me. That No, God doesn't exist? It just doesn't correlate or interact with me. But this is me.
However if it correlates with you then that is where you want to and need to be, Seek that which puts you in a place of tranquility and inner peace and that is what I wish for you, Peace and contentment.
I certainly in no way am judging you or anything like that I am merely sharing with you my feelings and I hope that you understand that is all I am doing.
wishing you the best of life.
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When Life gets you down remember this
by orangefatcat infunny thing now that i am no longer a jw ,thank god for that , i can't imagine how i ever had time to be a witness, here is the scheduled life of jw's which i copied from another site and give them the recognitions it deserves, http://www.escapefromwatchtower.com/mind.html.
inundated with activity.
b.. attending the ministry school andservice meetings.
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You know that really pi$$ed me off when the elders or a C.O. or a P.O. and D.O. would break down the hours of a day, a week and then a month and they made it sound as if you had all the time in the world to give to the organizaiton. That is all what is boils down to. It is giving an accounting to the Organizaiton,
Is there anywhere in the Holy Bible that says to us yes me beloved ones we have this many hours a month to do all that we can to get salvation that is by putting no less than 10 hours a month and the Governing body will take and keep records so that we can have more and more meetings to see how much we can improve in our services to the organization.
Hells bells no way there is nothing like that in the Bible anywhere. When Jesus said to make disciples of peoples of all the nations and tell them the good new baptizing them in the name of the father son and holy spirit. That good news was about the commandments that JC reiterated when he said to love God with our whole heart strenght mind and soul and the second is to love our neigbhour as ourselves. That was it. That is the Good new. And the WTS feels it is more than that it is giving them our live our lively hood our money our time our resourses. Holy mackeral when will they ever learn that salvation is a grace given to us freely from our saviour Jesus Christ, nothing more nothing less.
No how no way will anyone tell me again I have to do this for a man made dictated rulings and regualtions that are not even anywhere in the scriptures.
Buzz off WTS. you are at your end...
Orangefatcat is having a hissssssssssssssy fit. but in reality no I am not I am purrrrrrrrrfectly one very happy cat and camper.
hugs to all
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did anyone on here ever have a paedophile in thier congregation?
by looloo inif so, did it bother you that he had been reprooved and forgiven rather than reported to the police?
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Blondie you never cease to disappoint. How on earth did you find out that infomation, do you have a secret you'd like to share. Do you have a pipeline or a source other than the internet? It will take me forever to read all that info, but I will do it as it is important to keep abreast of this so we can inform the public about the dangers of Jehovah's witnesses. I just really wanted to tell you how much I appreciate the work you do on behalf of us here in JWD. I just had to tell you that.
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Time to celebrate, my first anniversary on JWD.
by PEC inone year, (time sure flies) and over 2000 posts.. philip.
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Okay way to go you guys. Lets celebrate, you get the champagne and the caviar and tell me where to meet ya and i will come a runnin. Well I can wish can't I ???????????
Congratulations
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When Life gets you down remember this
by orangefatcat infunny thing now that i am no longer a jw ,thank god for that , i can't imagine how i ever had time to be a witness, here is the scheduled life of jw's which i copied from another site and give them the recognitions it deserves, http://www.escapefromwatchtower.com/mind.html.
inundated with activity.
b.. attending the ministry school andservice meetings.
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Yes you guys are right, I forgot but it so because when we travelled no matter where we were the first thing my father did was look up the KH. We couldn't even go camping without going to a meeting or trying out some service. Everytime we would stop at service stations and gas stations or grocery stores my parents always always talked about the organization. Or when we would stop off at tourist attractions and also information stops it never failed. mom and dad always placed literature in the bathroom and laundry rooms during our travels. No peace at all. to them it was doing what the organization or our "mother" tells us or dad would use later on in his life the slave class. I got sick of hearing it all the time.
NMM sorry to disappoint with no video. but hey I could do a video if you want too.
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My daughter is in the hospital .......... it's kind of weird not to pray
by AWAKE&WATCHING inmy daughter shannon is 20 weeks pregnant.
the placenta is pulling loose and she has some bleeding.
the doc seems confidant that both she and the baby will be fine.she found out this week that it is a boy.
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When I first started reading the post I was very concerned for mom and baby and your anguish. Then when I got to page three to see that the specialist had assured her that everything is okay and the placenta is fine that was excellent news. Lets hope everything goes smooth sailing all the way to the birthing. Its doctors who speak before tests are done that irks me. They scare you and then when all is said and done it wasn't what they thought. It pays to see a specialist and always get second and third opinions.
Pleased all is well. Here are some beautiful flowers to watch. enjoy http://www.eagleheadnet.com/MyFriends.html
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When Life gets you down remember this
by orangefatcat infunny thing now that i am no longer a jw ,thank god for that , i can't imagine how i ever had time to be a witness, here is the scheduled life of jw's which i copied from another site and give them the recognitions it deserves, http://www.escapefromwatchtower.com/mind.html.
inundated with activity.
b.. attending the ministry school andservice meetings.
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Buy the way where did we find the time to eat, sleep, go shopping, go out with the family and raising a family and having sex. No wonder we were always worn out.
Thank God we have our freedom from the oppression of the WTBTS.
Orangefatcat