Posts by out4good3

I'd have to say that mine is George Michael's ........Freedom '90 from the Listen without Prejudice Vol. 1 album. Coincidentally that was his "coming out of the closet" song also.

George Michael
Listen Without Prejudice, Vol. 1 (1990)
Freedom '90

I won't let you down
I will not give you up
gotta have some faith in the sound
it's the one good thing that I've got
I won't let you down
so please don't give me up
because I would really, really love to stick around

heaven knows I was just a young boy
didn't know what I wanted to be
I was every little hungry schoolgirls pride and joy
and I guess it was enough for me
to win the race? a prettier face!
brand new clothes and a big fat place
on your rock and roll TV
but today the way I play the game is not the same
no way
think I'm gonna get me some happy

I think there's something you should know
I think it's time I told you so
there's something deep inside of me
there's someone else I've got to be
take back your picture in a frame
take back your singing in the rain
I just hope you understand
sometimes the clothes do not make the man

chorus
all we have to do now
is take these lies and make them true somehow
all we have to see
is that I don't belong to you
and you don't belong to me
freedom
you've gotta give for what you take
freedom
you've gotta give for what you take

heaven knows we sure had some fun boy
what a kick just a buddy and me
we had every big-shot goodtime band on the run boy
we were living in a fantasy
we won the race
got out of the place
I went back home got a brand new face
for the boys on MTV
but today the way I play the game has got to change
oh yeah
now I'm gonna get myself happy

I think there's somethig youshould know
I think it's time I stopped the show
there's something deep inside of me
there's someone I forgot to be
take back your picture in a frame
take back your singing in the rain
I just hope you understand
sometimes the clothes do not make the man

chorus

well it looks like the road to heaven
but it feels like the road to hell
when I knew which side my bread was buttered
I took the knife as well
posing for another picture
everybody's got to sell
but when you shake your ass
they notice fast
and some mistakes were build to last

that's what you get

I say that's what you get

that's what you get for changing your mind

and after all this time
I just hope you understand
sometimes the clothes do not make the man

I'll hold on to my freedom
may not be what you want from me
just the way it's got to be
lose the face now
I've got to live

Edited by - out4good3 on 17 January 2003 16:11:3

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Name Something Positive About Being A Witness

by minimus in

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can you do it?

out4good3

Argue with people and sound like I know what I'm talking about...

My wife does that.....even when it's clear that she doesn't have a clue.....

Other than getting exercise walking door to door and learning how not to be afraid of speaking to people, I can't think of anything positive about it.

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Corporal punishment and JWs

by YellowLab in

how many of you were spanked, beaten or in some other way physically corrected as a jw?.

my mother used to beat me with her hands, shoes, belts and various other items within reach when i misbehaved.

many times it was borderline abuse.. do jws teach to beat their kids into submission using physical means?

out4good3

My kid wasn't beaten, but I do remember forcing them to stand up in the back of the hall whenever they fell asleep during meetings. I came to my senses later though and defended their choice not to go to meetings anymore when my wife insisted during their teen years.

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Elders want letter from my daughter!

by reubenfine in

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background: my unbaptized daughter married an unbaptized young man when they were both 18 years old.

it didn't work out and 2 years later they divorced.. now it's 6 years later, (after the divorce), and my daughter never got baptized.

her ex-husband did and is engaged to another dub.

out4good3

Your daughter owes them NOTHING - she was never a JW as she was never baptized.

And even if she WAS baptised a JW, since she's decided that she wants nothing to do with them , she still owes them nothing. Why should she give the impression to them that they hold any power over her or that she's accountable to them in any way.

She should ignore the letter, and if they get in her face, call the police on them.

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Posting reunion photo soon with my granddaughter

by Nancy K in

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dear friends, i am relatively 'new' on this website, but i have been posting about not being allowed to see my granddaughter and the 'shunning' thing..i was just going to start a court proceding(my husband is an attorney)to try and get visitation, then my dad passed away..many of you wrote to me and showered me with much needed support.

thru my dad's 'passing', i had to contact my daughter and we had a long 'talk' and she wasn't 'shunning' me after all..my sister, who is a "double-life" witness told my daughter some terrible lies about me which were ridiculous, and my daughter at that time was being treated for depression, so she didn't know what to think(as my sister is a witness, and she naturally assumed she was being truthful)..i have a damaged neurological system from 8 months of very high-dose chemo, at times i use a cane, i have chronic pain, etc.,but it is all from my illness..my sister was telling my daughter i was on drugs, and yes i am on medication, but not medication that gets one 'high', this is medication i must be on for life.

so, thru my dad's passing, a miracle has happened, after 2 years of missing my granddaughter, in a few weeks i will be spending an entire weekend with her and my grandson whom i haven't seen, so my daughter and her husband can have some 'alone' time!!

out4good3

That's some great news. Hope your reunion goes well.

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It's my birthday

by out4good3 in

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well....sort of......... i've learnt so much from you people since i found this site.

it's literally been a godsend and has confirmed every nagging doubt i've had since my introduction to dubism.

looking forward to another year of delightfully "spiritual nourishment" from you all.. hint...hint....... <---------------------------------

out4good3

well....sort of........

I've learnt so much from you people since I found this site. It's literally been a godsend and has confirmed every nagging doubt I've had since my introduction to dubism. Looking forward to another year of delightfully "spiritual nourishment" from you all.

hint...hint......

<---------------------------------

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elders want to visit

by buffalosrfree in

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i've been back in town now for about six months, finally the elders want to visit me.

what a bunch of bull but they have my wife convinced they just want to come and encourage me.

she has told them all the things i no longer believe in and that i ain't interested in being stupid anymore, but they still blow the bull by her.

out4good3

when "they" phone to make an appointment

Has anybody tried asking for their number when they call and then calling them right back? This will ensure that there is not another "brother" on the phone listening in on three way. This is if you want to talk with them at all.

Does anyone else have any ideas of ways to circumvent their "two witness rule" crap when they're hunting people down.

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Help the Elders are after me!!!!!!!!

by auntiem in

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okay, an elder just showed up at my doorstep and he was wearing sweat suit and sweat pants and he was alone.

whats up with that?

is this a new tactic to get me to talk?

out4good3

Or...do what I did.....

The last time a bunch of elders showed up at my door, I loudly yelled "GO AWAY!!!!!!"

Haven't seen them since.

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Why did I fall away from the truth???

by JNS2 in

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no, i don't think it is the "truth" any more, but for 22 years i did.

that is what makes this so very difficult to come to grips with, admitting that i wasted all that time as a mindless drone.

(borg) anyway, i've been trying to analyze why i have fallen away.

out4good3

I always secretly wondered how everyone else was doing in these areas but never asked others straight out about it

The WT flourishes under that veil of secrecy they encourage amongst the r\F anyway. You are always encouraged not to compare yourself against brother and sister Zealous because in truth. I believe if you asked them they'd have to admit that they miss meetings, studies, readings, just as much. It much better for them to collectively assume that whatever you're doing, it's not enough and that you always could and should be doing more. No one will ever measure up perfectly with all the rules and regulations of the WTS.