One night I couldn't sleep, couldn't sleep, and couldn't sleep! I finally got to sleep, and dream't 'I was awake'!
Outaservice
it is midnight and i have just got out of bed......................no sleep for me tonight ...........again.
i am so tired.
i suffer from insomnia like a lot of posters here but when i do sleep, a couple of times a week at worse or once every couple of months i have night terrors.. *these only started when i found out the truth about the org, so i can only conclude its stress.
One night I couldn't sleep, couldn't sleep, and couldn't sleep! I finally got to sleep, and dream't 'I was awake'!
Outaservice
the reason i heard constantly by the elders, as to ones spiritual progress in the organisation was, .
"brothers are appointed by holy spirit.".
if this is the case, why is god speaking to himself when he says in 1 tim 3 v 6 .not a newly converted man, for fear that he might get puffed up with prideetc.. to re-iterate if god appoints elders, why would he give himself this advice ???.
I never wanted to be an Elder, never reached out for the position, so they made me one. Go figure!
Outaservice (Who is now a real Elder or is that Senior Citizen?)
i get a phone call last friday telling me there was a note pinned to the door of my old house (deserted and up for sale) saying to contact this person asap because i am an heir to something or other.. eventually, i get around to it this morning; i make the call.. it seems xto energy corporation is looking for me because i'm an heir to my great grandmother's mineral rights to a 4 acre strip of land in burleson texas.
the land is wanted for drilling purposes by the oil and gas drilling exploration team.. i met with the agent this morning.
he showed me my great grandmother's obituary and his copy of the family tree.
How much are you planning on giving the Watchtower Organization? Enough, would secure you a place on the ark no matter what your beliefs are!
Outaservice (ain't we cousins?)
it seems to me a common misconception amongst ex- jehovahs witnesses is that there will one day be an issue arises so big that it will pull the rug from under the watchtower bible and tract society bringing the whole edifice crumbling down.
revelations come and go, apostates jump from one hope to another.
expose after expose fail to cause more than a ripple on the tranquil jw pond.
A lot don't leave until..................'their own ox gets gored'...............and then, and then only do they maybe begin to 'think'!
Psychology books attest to the 'Group, Herd, Pack,' thoughts of controlled people and their various ways to keep them in line. The Watchtower does this very well.
But, the God factor can change that when 'Light' exposes some of the darkness. Eph. 5:13-14.
Outaservice
on another thread many made the comments that the congregations not in the united states seem to have different rules than elsewhere, and also more freedom.. do people in other countries think of it mostly as an american religion?
do australians for instance show reverence for the governing body as much as an american seems to?.
outaservice.
On another thread many made the comments that the congregations not in the United States seem to have different rules than elsewhere, and also more freedom.
Do people in other countries think of it mostly as an American religion? Do Australians for instance show reverence for the Governing Body as much as an American seems to?
Outaservice
i don't often open up discussions on my beliefs or experiences in life, but i feel a need, so please excuse me if you feel it untoward.
neither is this a poxy swan-song, i'm just opening up my heart a little.. today i had cause to reflect on a conversation i had with my [now ex-]wife shortly after my epithany.
everything was so new and unknown.
On doctrine, people have been arguing for years and still have not reached conclusions. However, how can you argue with a persons 'personal experience' related in a testimony? If it happened, it happened.
I would advise you to reevaluate LT your ......"my decision never to post about what actually happened on a webboard....". Tell it to the world, regardless if some choose not to believe, that's their problem! Of course this should never be done in a 'self righteous way' or as some Christians do, ' a condescending way'! This you have not done.
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i don't often open up discussions on my beliefs or experiences in life, but i feel a need, so please excuse me if you feel it untoward.
neither is this a poxy swan-song, i'm just opening up my heart a little.. today i had cause to reflect on a conversation i had with my [now ex-]wife shortly after my epithany.
everything was so new and unknown.
Same thing approximately happened to me. Eph. 5:13-14.
Outaservice
now let me get this straight brothers............................. 1st, you told me not to wear any sideburns in my short hair requirement.. 2nd, you told me that i had to wear white shirts with my suit and tie (no pastel or colored) and if i didn't i couldn't speak at the hall.. 3rd, you suggested a four door car only, for if i bought a two door car then i was not considered too mature.. 4th, i had to be to bed early on friday night, to be fresh for saturday morning field service, and the same thing saturday night, so i would be fresh for sunday morning.. 5th, you mentioned i could not stay in the hotel i wanted during the convention, but had to settle for some flea-bag one that you arranged for us.. 6th, you said i had to attend meetings somewhere even when i was on vacation and probably it would be better if i 'vacation pioneered' during that short time i got every year as that would be the best use of my time.. 7th ,you called me wanting an explanation if i happened to miss two meetings in a row.. 8th, you wanted to know the title and kind of books i read in my own house, to make sure they were approved by the organization.. 9th, you hinted not to spend too much time with my worldly 'mother' because the organization was my mother!.
10th, you mentioned that i should not stop for coffee or breakfast on saturday morning, even though i was an adult and free to do whatever i wanted.. who in the hell do you think you are?
good bye, i'm going back to join 'the human race'!.
Now let me get this straight Brothers............................
1st, you told me not to wear any sideburns in my short hair requirement.
2nd, you told me that I had to wear white shirts with my suit and tie (no pastel or colored) and if I didn't I couldn't speak at the Hall.
3rd, you suggested a four door car only, for if I bought a two door car then I was not considered too mature.
4th, I had to be to bed early on Friday night, to be fresh for Saturday morning Field Service, and the same thing Saturday night, so I would be fresh for Sunday morning.
5th, you mentioned I could not stay in the hotel I wanted during the convention, but had to settle for some flea-bag one that you arranged for us.
6th, you said I had to attend meetings somewhere even when I was on vacation and probably it would be better if I 'Vacation Pioneered' during that short time I got every year as that would be the best use of my time.
7th ,you called me wanting an explanation if I happened to miss two meetings in a row.
8th, you wanted to know the title and kind of books I read in my own house, to make sure they were approved by the organization.
9th, you hinted not to spend too much time with my worldly 'mother' because the organization was my mother!
10th, you mentioned that I should not stop for coffee or breakfast on Saturday morning, even though I was an adult and free to do whatever I wanted.
Who in the hell do you think you are? Good bye, I'm going back to join 'the human race'!
Outaservice ( for good)
okay, not so much murder, but yesterday i did kill a deer.
i was driving my 18 wheeler thru tennessee.
it was around 5 in the morning.
It's okay to feel bad, but it was an accident. You didn't do it on purpose.
Outaservice
what happened?
did i miss it?
was there some special announcement?
It must of had something to do with the all new, powerful message, tract. Everybody in the world will be shaking in their boots soon!
Outaservice (who's getting into his bomb shelter right now)