Posts by outnfree

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HELLO? HELLO? "ALL" SIGN IN???????

by waiting in

simon did away with the sex forum - so i must take the tradional route and post under "make new friends.

" how mundane!.

fyi ---- for all of us, please take the time to write a sentence or two about yourselves, and encourage new ones to do the same.

outnfree

Hi, everyone!

For some reason, my previous post to this thread did not appear.

Skimmer,

I am sorry for the sorrow in your life right now. You seem to have a positive attitude, so that's good. Pearljan is a friend of mine, and your post and hers have convinced me to broach the subject of organ donation with my family.

Thanks for sharing,

Missy,

Your GUT is right on! The change of venue is meant precisely as a way to have you "overhear" the discussion and become "more favorable" towards the organization.

Have you explained to your husband what you just explained to us? That out of regard for his feelings you have never had a Bible study in your home and that you wish he would respect your feelings as well?

I am in the position of having BEEN the JW spouse in a divided household. It IS difficult for the children. What is sad is that I'm sure your husband is absolutely convinced that what he is doing means the salvation of your children and himself. (And the recent change of venue is because he loves you and wants you to be saved as well.)

Prepare yourself for the argument that he has a right to teach your children what HE believes although he cannot stop you from also teaching them what YOU believe. He IS their parent, too. (And the head of the household!)

I understand about your wanting the "space" too. When there's tension, it's nice to have a break from that.

I, too, along with MyMichelle, look forward to more of your posts.
I am happy to be an "ear" for your frustrations.

outnfree

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Heroin Overdose=Daughter=HELP!

by patio34 in

jw
friends

i'm having a crisis in my family and really need some advice and even (((())))!.

background:.

daughter is 28-yrs-old.

outnfree

Forgot the hugs!!!!

(((((((((((((Patio)))))))))))))

outnfree

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Heroin Overdose=Daughter=HELP!

by patio34 in

jw
friends

i'm having a crisis in my family and really need some advice and even (((())))!.

background:.

daughter is 28-yrs-old.

outnfree

Hi, Pat.

I may have something to offer.

CPS will NOT step in to remove the children from their mother unless she endangers them, which you have stated she does not.

I am the full guardian (in my state there is "limited" or "full" guardianship") of my grand-niece. For several years I tried to get CPS to remove her from her mother's care, as the mother has borderline personality disorder and was in and out of mental health units and her father was in jail. However, because the mother placed my grand-niece in the care of her aunts (never mind the atmosphere in their homes!) and thus "reasonable care" was being taken by the mother to keep the child safe, CPS would do nothing.

So. Finally I got custody by at least one parent agreeing to LIMITED guardianship. If the father(s) do not have parental rights, you must deal only with your daughter. Perhaps she will realize that it would be better for you to have guardianship and will agree to at least limited guardianship (if this exists in your state) if not full.

Things can actually move quite quickly once she signs the papers (usually a form available at the county courthouse -- Probate or Estate Division, as legal guardianships are also used for incompetant or ill heirs, etc.). In the meantime, she can give you a letter authorizing you to have the children in custody and allowing you to authorize any necessary medical care. A court date will be set as soon as the signed forms are submitted, and in the meantime, you will have temporary legal guardianship.

My court appearance was very brief and cut & dried. "You are petitioning for legal guardianship of xxxxxx. What is your relationship? Where are the parents? Why did you only request limited guardianship? ("Because that was the deal with her mother.") I am granting you FULL guardianship because I think it is in the best interests of the child. ("But, Your Honor...") Yes. This way YOU control visitation. Thank you, Mrs. xxxx." Gavel down.

We did not request any financial assistance from the parents (yes, they can be forced to contribute) or from the state. It seems in your case that because you work (I don't.) you will need some kind of state aid. Sorry I don't have any experience in this area. Perhaps somebody else will?

I'm going to send you my e-mail address in case you'd like to talk more.

outnfree

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My Story******Short Version!

by think41self in

i was raised a poor white child in the deep south...ok, florida, where i still am.

i was the typical slightly self righteous witness, miss goody goody, left school at 16 to pioneer, which i did for 4 years, met a guy and married him.

he had 2 kids from a previous marriage and we had 2 kids of our own.

outnfree

Wow! Troucul! I think I'm renaming you TooCool!

I am SO happy to read that you and your [ex-]wife are back together and that the kids have their daddy back!

Since it appears we have several francophiles here, perhaps you and Bonnie38 would be interested in reading the French H20 which is run by Chasson.

I'll try to find the link and post it later. Sometimes there are very interesting news articles and links to court decisions as well.
It's good practice!

I'm thinking of going to college, too, Bonnie Michelle! Not sure what I'd take as a major, though. (Same problem I had when I was actually college age!)

((((((Skimmer))))))))
I am sorry you are going through so much right now. You seem to have a very positive attitude. Your story (and pearljan's) has motivated me to discuss organ donation with my family. Thanks for sharing.

I just LOVE this place, don't you?

outnfree

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Dissfellowshiped Watchtower

by cornish in

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friends

as it was considered back in 1995 that due to not holding to the society's view of the literal generation of 1914,i had disasociated myself,now all jehovah,s witnesses dont believe this anymore,are they all appostate for rejecting this important truth,that i had apparently sinned so much in rejecting?????????

?

outnfree

Hi, Sawthelight!

Welcome to the board!
There is a thread on Personal Experiences entitled "Hello, Hello, Hello, ..." where you can tell us more about yourself if you'd like.
(You, too, Cornish!)

outnfree

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Watchtower Study - July 8

by hippikon in

building a spiritually strong family .

go on bringing them up in the discipline and mental-regulating of jehovah.. ephesians 6:4.. .

be fruitful and become many and fill the earth.

outnfree

Ahem! Well, then!

Since I don't even know what an OCR program is, and you're not polluting your mind with this garbage, I'll leave you to it!

But know that it's appreciated, ok, hippi?

XOXOXOXO
outnfree

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My Mother's Letter

by silentlambs in

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friends

i recently got this letter from my mother, i thought i would share it to help see how this saga continues.

my parents are both regular pioneering as we speak.

have seen their grandchildren for about an hour in the last six months.

outnfree

Dear Silentlambs,

I noticed that in her letter to you, your mother seems to think that only your wife is truly happy with the stand your family is making, and that in her letter to your wife, your mother-in-law seems to feel that you have led her daughter astray.

Blame shifting. It is everywhere in the Witness organization. They never predicted 1975. "Some Christians" had the wrong idea about the 1914 generation thing and got caught up in "dates" and such! JWs don't harbor pedophiles, only REPENTANT pedophiles!!!

Duplicity? We don't report alleged pedophiles, because that is not our place. Judicial committees are about religious law, not civil law. Yet Jehovah's people are law-abiding, honest citizens. NOT!!!
There is no clergy class, but in trials darned if we don't consider there to have been unbreachable clergy-penitant privilege when a publisher confesses wrongdoing to an elder!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCKKKKKKK!

I am very sorry for the guilt trip that this letter from your mom surely is, and for the sorrow that it causes in you. The others have more than sufficiently commented on the warped WT way of thinking that pervades the contents of that letter.

However, I am with RedHorseWoman: I think there is hope that your mother and mother-in-law will one day realize the depth of the WT wicked policies and will be proud to call you son and son-in-law!

In the meantime, I would like to once again publicly praise you for your courageous stand on behalf of all the silent lambs.

outnfree

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Hello and Encouraging HUG's to all !

by Latte in

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friends

to logical, ozziepost and everyone .

just thought it was a good idea to say hello to everyone, and wish you all a great week.. how's your cold logical?

no more sneezing?.

outnfree

Hi, Latte!

Why is always so quiet on a Monday morning?........

Maybe because everyone's so exhausted from staying up late in chat?
LOL

Anyway, it's a pleasure to join you in wishing everyone on the board (you, too, Latte) a wonderful week. We have a great thing here, and it's nice not to lose sight of that!

Hugs to all,
outnfree

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Watchtower Study - July 8

by hippikon in

building a spiritually strong family .

go on bringing them up in the discipline and mental-regulating of jehovah.. ephesians 6:4.. .

be fruitful and become many and fill the earth.

outnfree

Hi, hippikon!

First, a comment on the article. Preparing in advance for field service NEVER made my children joyful. Promising them that we'd stop at MickeyD's for break on the other hand...

I realize you're providing a service here for those who have no access to Watchtower atudy articles, but isn't it difficult to spend time with this stuff?

Do you have a scanner or are you having to copy the articles manually?
I found that when I reproduced the 7-1 article on No Doubts for someone on this board, it was difficult to spend time with WT think.
I don't know how to work my scanner and had to manually retype.

Let me know, and maybr we can share the duties, if I can figure out the scanning process.

outnfree

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Org. Re-orging in JAPAN

by JWD in

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friends

for those of you who haven`t been following it,the wts is in a downward spiral here in japan.fs hours are down,memorial attendance.

is down,pioneers are down,studies are down,donations are down,number.

of congregations is down and the number of publishers continues to.

outnfree

Hi, JWD!

Was wondering if you had had the time to translate that blood card yet?

Thanks.

Moxy,

That Stand Firm link was interesting, Moxy. Especially the comments on the "non-denominational" quality of the presentation!
Also interesting that there exists a "Scholars' Edition" of the video?
The Patriarchs protecting the dumb little r/f members from 'worrying their po' lil heads about it'?)

Best,
outnfree