Excepting he wasn’t in Bethel.
ozziepost
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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August issue is now up on JW.com
by ozziepost injust a heads up that the english version with the changed cover is now up on jw.com.. i haven’t yet read it but if any you have the time i’m looking forward to people’s insights.. in the meantime i must find a red 🍷.
cheers,.
ozzie (of the ‘is he still here?’ class ).
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It being a cold, windy winter’s day, I’ve turned my mind to the re-vamped August Tower.
i’ve not changed my views on their erroneous teaching in Study 33 about 1st and 2nd letters to the Corinthians but through the five articles I can see their efforts to sanitise their extra-judicial policies, notwithstanding that the evil apostates are grouped together with pedophiles for special attention or should that be special everlasting removal?
Anyway, I’m curious that there’s no discussion or even mention of ‘restrictions’. They don’t describe anything extra to an announcement of reproof or when someone is re-instated (do they still use that word?).
I’m curious, if they quietly abandoned restrictions, that would be a watering-down of their judicial processes. Restrictions as they practice it flies in the face of the thrust of the articles in their hi-lighting of forgiveness. The use of restrictions was always used as a tool to ‘qualify’ their offering forgiveness.
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August issue is now up on JW.com
by ozziepost injust a heads up that the english version with the changed cover is now up on jw.com.. i haven’t yet read it but if any you have the time i’m looking forward to people’s insights.. in the meantime i must find a red 🍷.
cheers,.
ozzie (of the ‘is he still here?’ class ).
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August issue is now up on JW.com
by ozziepost injust a heads up that the english version with the changed cover is now up on jw.com.. i haven’t yet read it but if any you have the time i’m looking forward to people’s insights.. in the meantime i must find a red 🍷.
cheers,.
ozzie (of the ‘is he still here?’ class ).
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ozziepost
OK as I anticipated the Borgmeisters, using a gross error of Bible scholarship, have sought to portray their treatment of “removed ones” as being “Bible based”.
Bible scholars agree that of all the letters that the apostle Paul wrote to the church in Corinth, just two remain and we know them as 1 Corinthians and 2 Corinthians.
We know there was definitely one written after 1 Corinthians that we do not have. It’s referred to at 2 Corinthians 2:3,4 and was written from Ephesus but unfortunately it has not survived.
From this knowledge we have no basis for claiming (as the Watchtower does) that the man referred to at 2 Corinthians 2:5-11 was the guy whose conduct Paul addressed in 1 Corinthians.
The Watchtower has long claimed, and wrongly, the opposite. So much for being Bible teachers and “true christians”!
So when the gullible read the Study 33 article, they may be drawn into a land completely alien to what was the reality of the time. Drawing false parallels and overlain with a twenty-first century Jehovah’s Witness culture and terminology, paragraph 8 is based on a false premise and paragraph 9 is pure conjecture.
ozzie
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August issue is now up on JW.com
by ozziepost injust a heads up that the english version with the changed cover is now up on jw.com.. i haven’t yet read it but if any you have the time i’m looking forward to people’s insights.. in the meantime i must find a red 🍷.
cheers,.
ozzie (of the ‘is he still here?’ class ).
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Big News: August English Watchtower released on servers
by ukpimo inbig news.
just in from a friend who is fading.. disfellowshipping will no longer be a term used by jws.
study article 35, paragraph 4 footnote says this:.
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ozziepost
. If a person is Disfellowshiped for a sin, but latter the rules in the KS book governing that sin are modified by the Governing Body so that its no longer a Disfellowshipping offense, what is the standing of the people previously 'removed from the congregation'?
When, as an elder, I asked the same question I was told at branch level that the disfellowshiping was justified because of rebellion to “Jehovah’s organisation” (TM).
You just can’t win!
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Watchtower August leak: details from reddit user
by ukpimo infrom reddit.. a summary of changes: .
we are all sinners, so we have to be reasonable how we punish sinners.
if elders and congregation do not quickly help someone come to be reinstated they would be imitating satan the devil, not jehovah (yes that actually is what is said in the tagalog version in translation!
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ozziepost
Box explains the man in Corinth changed within a few months, this is the basis for the change towards disfellowshipping.
The “Box” may “explain” the WT teaching but like the song says “it ain’t necessarily so”.
Apart from what is included in the Bible canon, Paul wrote other letters to the church in Corinth, including one between the first and second to the Corinthians. There is no concrete evidence that the man referred to in 1 Corinthians is also the one referred to in 2 Corinthians.
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My guess for August WatchTower: GB claims we're in beginning stages of Great Tribulation due to World governments turning on JW's
by WingCommander inthe september watchtower has already been released and is being discussed over on reddit.
some highlights: .
1. more hitting the flock on total reliance and obedience to god's representatives on earth today, the f&ds (the governing body, of course).
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It will probably be released soon in the next month, with some disappointing information
Isn’t the point of discussion that it was delayed at all ?
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My guess for August WatchTower: GB claims we're in beginning stages of Great Tribulation due to World governments turning on JW's
by WingCommander inthe september watchtower has already been released and is being discussed over on reddit.
some highlights: .
1. more hitting the flock on total reliance and obedience to god's representatives on earth today, the f&ds (the governing body, of course).
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@ Scully
luvs ya.
Ozzie ( of the oldtimers class)
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Coming soon: Governing Body Update #4
by ukpimo inthe upcoming governing body update, set to be released on friday this week, will feature a bearded samuel herd.. jwtalk website revealed the leak, so this thread will be used to speculate the content of the update and discuss the actual contents after its release..
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ozziepost
If that’s the case, I wonder how my family who are PIMI will react.