are there any others here in the room who feel that they are very close to feeling at complete peace with themselves, or are in fact at complete peace with themselves?
would you like to put into words the feelings experienced, the pleasure within?.
peace.
I don't know if it is peace. But I see the crazy life my mom and sisters live, and I am so glad I don't.
It really is all about freedom,
Freedom to believe or not believe,
Watch what I want on tv,
Go to the bookstore and buy anything thing I want.
And I don't have to care what anyone else will think.
Raise my sons the way I want.
I don't know if it is peace, but I know I like it.
Pam
it has been a long time since i have been on the board.
a lot of things have been going on in my life.
but i am finally able to see the end.
Hi everyone,
It has been a long time since I have been on the board. A lot of things have been going on in my life. But I am finally able to see the end. I recently got a job that I am going to love, and was able to leave a job I really didn't like. In fact, I have 9 days off before my new job starts.
My son with all the mental health problems is going to a new school. Hopefully that will help.
And I was finally able to tell my jw mom how much I hated being an oddball when I was in school, and how much I feel that her religion messed up my life. And I was able to do it in such a way that she really listened. My mom doesn't listen much, so I was shocked. And the whole conversation wasn't planned, it just happened. So things are looking up. Who knows maybe I will get to post more than once every six months.
Glad to see all of you again.
Pam
your still dedicated and baptised witnesses of jehovah, but you are free on this board to.
shout from the house tops to the whole world what jesus tells you in secret!
remember his command !
You can't have one without the other. So I am ex everything. I am more dedicate to God (Jehovah is someone I do not recognize) now than I was before. I actually know who he is, where I didn't have a clue as a jw. I know what I am, and what I am not.
Pam
i just happened to glance a the date as i was posting 2-13-02. one day before valentines day.
i realized that i don't have a valentine.
i subscribe to the idea that it is better to be alone and wish you were with someone than be with someone and wish you were alone.
Yep, I will celebrate by myself, well, with my two kids. It is better to love myself, than to get a gift in Feb. from someone who is just going through the motions. Someday I hope to find that someone special. But I am not losing any sleep over it.
Pam
having every excuse why its ok for certain witnesses to dismiss whichever rules they choose.. y-.
yelling, arguing, fighting, abuse, and all the other 'unchristianlike' conduct that goes on behind closed doors.
power hungry elders.
Great post. I can relate so much. My jw mother gave me and my sister her Christmas gifts from work. She had opened them, wrapped them back in the same wrapping and said, "I don't want them, so I thought I would give them to you." She also sat in my house and wrapped my sister's Christmas gifts for my brother. Out of six kids there are 4 of us doing the holidays now. Every year my mom thinks of a new way to be involved but not involved. It is warped it makes me laugh.
Pam
i was baptized 5 years ago and inactive for the past 4... i've been married for almost 5 years to a caring man that was raised as a jw.
he's been inactive most his life :) he hates all other forms of religion and tends to be anti-social because everyone is "worldly".
i don't want my child to grow up as a jw.
Even when people don't go to meetings, they act and think just like they did when they went. If you really want to keep your son from being raised a jw, it will affect your marriage. There is no way to have both. You will have to decide which is more important to you, your son or your marriage. Personally, I have always chosen my children over any relationship. I guess that is why I am not married now. You are in a hard place, and I am sure your husband will not make it any easier for you. Is there any way you can talk this over with him? Sorry I can' t be more positive about this.
Pam
lets dance, we have added "wt letters" section to the website.
it will offer a new letter each week added to a list with an introduction.
read the introduction, click to view the letter and see if it answers the questions.
That is incrediable. Even for the wt, that is low. Since no one knows, don't turn him in.
Shaking my head in disgust.
Pam
i asked this in one of the threads ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=5335) but i would like to explore it further.. am i the only one to think this or did it seem like the sisters with unbelieving mates and children seemed to be "tolerated" or marginalized?
they never seemed to be "full" witnesses to anybody in the congregation?.
my name is slipnslideius masterus: commander of the armies of the north, general of the felix legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, marcus aurelius...
That is so true, my step-father was not a jw. And we were never included in any get
togethers at people's houses, or sleep overs for the kids. It was like we didn't belong. the
only time anyone paid attention to my mother is when they thought she needed a head, since
her husband was not a jw, she didn't have one. (The one sitting on her shoulders, didn't count, it
was female you know.) Then they would tell her what to do. She ususally ignored them.
Once on an assemlbly program they interviewed a sister who had an unbelieving mate. And the
brother giving the talk started to talk bad about her husband. And she said, "I love my husband, and
he is a good man, and i am not going to sit up here and say bad things about him." She was very
angry, and then interview didn't go the way the brother wanted it too. In fact, I think that part
actually ended ahead of time.
I also remember an announcement for a skating party,and they said that only jws in good standing
could come, no unbelieveing mates, it was only for members of the congregation. There were many
sisters and their children that choice not to attend that party.
Pam
i have been lurking around here for quite some time now, posted a few short replies, and engaged in a little chat from time to time.
its almost hard to remember, just a few months back, feeling like i was the only one to live through a jw experience and not be sorry that i am no longer a part of it.
i am very happy to have found this site.. i would like to better introduce myself as i have seen several others do.. i was born in '78 to a fanatical jw mother and an unbelieving alcholic father.
Hi Heff,
My mother became a witness when I was 6, right before I started in school. So all I ever really knew
was being a jw. And I started raising my kids jw also. But I am so glad that now we are all free.
Most of my family are still witnesses, and most of them still speak to me. I am a walk away. But when
I was a teenager I was df, but because I was young and dumb, I got reinstated.
I was also baptized young, I was 13, and it was 1975 and the elders told my mom that I was too old to
get in the new system on her works. that I had to be baptized or I would die. My mom was
scared to death, and I was forced to get baptized. And of course after you do that you
no longer have a childhood, they expect you to be little adults. No chance to make any mistakes.
I felt alone for a long time too. But just remember, you are not alone.
Pam
i am very interested to know how all of you feel about the subject of death and the future.
do you fear death?
what do you think are the possibilities for the future?.
The one thing I do enjoy is living my live now. My mother is still wasting her live, waiting for
that big wonderful thing to happen in the future. I always wondered why we couldn't be happy
now, why we had to wait. I no longer wait. I do things now that make me happy.
But as a kid, I remember thinking, being dead wouldn't be an worse than my life was then, at least
I wouldn't feel anything. So I developed the attitude that either way dead or alive, I was better off.
I knew too, that I wasn't good enough to for Jehovah to save.
It is sad how terrible I felt for years. Now I don't have that guilt. Being free is a great thing.
Pam
