just one day perform some form of miracle in front of the entire earth in which he proves he exists???.
wouldn't this be the most loving and sensible thing to do?
for instance, this coming thursday god repeatedly strikes mount kilamanjaro to the point that it reads in hebrew, "god exists, i just did this.
@ Seraphim23 - even human parents can decide to allow and even give some level of pain, suffering, challenge and so on to kids for developmental purposes.
Questions: So what lesson is god teaching by allowing thousands of abandoned children to die of death by starvation? In your worldview, would this not be the case if they were Christians?
so this morning i was thinking about a few things that hit me like a ton of bricks:.
1. god destroyed the entire earth because man was evil - yet right after he destroyed them for being evil he said that he will never destroy all of manking again because the are evil.... 2. god asked noah to bring two of every kind on the ark.
then he gets off the ark and sacrifices some of these animals.
I guess we should either be thankful that god in his superlative mercy didn't send Velocoraptors and T-Rex's on the ark, or angry that man is to blame for their extinction.
just one day perform some form of miracle in front of the entire earth in which he proves he exists???.
wouldn't this be the most loving and sensible thing to do?
for instance, this coming thursday god repeatedly strikes mount kilamanjaro to the point that it reads in hebrew, "god exists, i just did this.
@Seraphim23: Humans deciding what it would be sensible for a god to do will never serve as a basis to disprove his existence because the argument has no logical end.
The argument does however highlight that the concept of the almighty personal god who cares is false.
i constantly read that having faith is the answer to knowing that god (or in most cases, jesus) exists.
but to me it's quite clear there are serious difficulties in believing the bible.. adam and eve.
talking snake.
One part of the Adam and Eve account that really got me thinking was the flaming sword guarding the entrace to the garden. So many questions arise from this such as:
1. How could a symbol of war be so out of historical context?
2. Did god invent the sword, and therefore war and violence?
2a. Is God a hypocrite by telling us that he hates violence?
3. Is this a Fruedian slip by the scholars of the catholic church who fabricated this entire allegory during the dark ages when swords were a symbol of power and the weapon of the day.
For me faith cannot cover over such major flaws in a book that is supposedly of divine origin.
just one day perform some form of miracle in front of the entire earth in which he proves he exists???.
wouldn't this be the most loving and sensible thing to do?
for instance, this coming thursday god repeatedly strikes mount kilamanjaro to the point that it reads in hebrew, "god exists, i just did this.
I garauntee you that if it started raining manna in Ethiopia once a month and everytime guerilla rebels raised up against wicked people an angel would kill them all I would start believing again instantly and I would preach till I died
Yes, after 2,000 years it seems like a small gesture to that effect would be in order.
Oh, for a minute there I thought you were talking about the Tower of Babel, where God CAUSED confusion amongst men.
Yes thank you for reminding me of the fact that god is also the creator of confusion too.
just one day perform some form of miracle in front of the entire earth in which he proves he exists???.
wouldn't this be the most loving and sensible thing to do?
for instance, this coming thursday god repeatedly strikes mount kilamanjaro to the point that it reads in hebrew, "god exists, i just did this.
@confusedandalone
I couldn't agree with your premise more. With all of the confusing and conflicting religious beliefs out there it leads to the inevitable conclusion that god (assuming he exists) does not want to be found. If he did, wouldn't it stand to reason that he would make himself available to the most vulnerable people of the world like starving children in Africa? Instead, he has all his angels tied up with making sure people get a watchtower or a bible study, or protecting crops so brother holy can get to the convention. Additionaly, you can hardly classify mellenia of zero communication and allowing confusion to fester as impatience on our part either.
It makes no sense.
Edit: Religion is mostly a product a birth, not a single and correct idea that god has made available to ALL people.
i have been out for 22 years.i was raised as a jehovahs witness.
i was baptized in 1986 but soon after left the religion.
theres a whole lot to the reasons why i left, but i left.
I think you should go back for 2-3 months. I say 2-3 months to get past the love bombing stage, so you can see it not through the prism of love bombing. I think what you'll quickly discover is that the way it is now is nothing like it was 22 years ago. All of the more interesting prophecy, and history studies are gone and they now just mostly talk about being more obedient to the slave, doing more, avoiding pornography, and other boring topics like how "YOU" feel (and yes there is a wrong answer to those questions :/ ). Keeping up with Jehovah's celestial chariot will make your head spin.
If you do choose to go back please let us know what your impressions are after the love bombings have subsided.
P.S. They will probably want to put on convention stage as propganda tool to show that the "world" really has nothing to offer after all. I hope you can decline such an offer.
a favorite podcast of mine for several years now has been dan carlin's hardcore history.
dan has a real gift for storytelling, and is a serious and humble student of history.. a recent episode (which i still haven't finished) deals with events that transpired in the german city of muenster in the early 1500s, events specifically related to the rise of protestantism and a millenial-apocalyptic fervor (with date setting and everything) that gripped a good chunk of the very, very religious populace, particularly the anabaptists.. the jw parallels are obvious, as you will discover if you decide to give it a listen.. http://www.dancarlin.com//disp.php/hharchive/show-48---prophets-of-doom/luther-reformation-history.
Yes, this was a fantastic podcast! I listed to this several months back and was shocked at how closely this paralled the WT$ changing doctrine to keep people coralled. The lies deceit and twisting of scripture to keep the peons of Muenster subjugated and and on the path to mutually assured destruction has so much relavance to today.
Dan Carlin does an amazing job at really telling the story with all of the gritty and intricate details in a captivating way. Have you listened to his podcast "The Ghosts of Osfront"?
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/oct/08/religion.world?view=desktop.
Marked.
imtyping this on my phone, please excuse the misspellings.
i'm sad.
she lived a long life, 90 years, and battled alzheimer's for the last 5 years of her life.
I'm so sorry for your loss, she will live on in your memories.
