As some of you may know, My older sister has recently become active again. (Barf!!!) Now, we don't talk about it at all. (Sore subject, obviously) But she just happened to be at my house on the day the Connie Chung Expose ran. And I just HAPPENED to have it on. ;) (Thank all of you for let me know it was coming on.)
She did make a comment that she mentioned to a sister that she thought the 2 witness rule was wrong. She was then admonished by this sister not to say that too loudly. So evidently, in her congregation, it is being discussed. Just very quietly. I think it is just something to wisper about. But no one wants to upset the apple cart. You know what I mean?
-P(J)
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To Current Witnesses
by freedom96 in.
for witnesses who are currently going to the meetings, or anyone really for that matter, who may have friends still going i have a question:.
what are the active witnesses saying about the molesting issue that has come quite apparent lately?
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GO LAMBS!!!!!!!
Wish I could be there. I'll hold down the fort here.
I'll Cheer from here. RA! RA!Good Luck!!
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JGnat Says Hi
by jgnat ini have been wandering around the board for a while now, and have decided it is time to contribute a bit of my history.
i have described my involvement with the witnesses as being from the outside looking in.
my sweet honey has been trying for two years to get reinstated.
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The story of your life is GREAT JGnat. Keep it comin'. I keep coming back for more.
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SPEAK OUT! about emotional blackmail....
by professor inthe watchtower society goons, in a power drunken stupor, are once again caught with their pants down, this time exposing their diabolical plan to undermine and exploit natural family love.. audacious, even for the watchtower, the message of the august 2002 kingdom ministry rings loud and clear to the rank and file: emotional blackmail can force your family back to us!
"after hearing a talk at a circuit assembly, a brother and his fleshly sister realized that they needed to make adjustments in the way they treated their mother, who lived elsewhere and who had been disfellowshipped for six years.
immediately after the assembly, the man called his mother, and after assuring her of their love, he explained that they could no longer talk to her unless there were important family matters requiring contact.
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It just blows my mind how this stuff actually works. My older sister was blackmailed into going back in just this way. Her son and daughter decided one day that they were not going to talk to her anymore if she didn't come back. My 'lapdog' sister decided it was worth going back for. It just sickens me. There was nothing I could do. Every time I tried to discuss it with her, her shields went up immediately. It was so disheartening that I finally gave up. She still talks to me, but it is so strained. We used to be so close. And now it is almost not worth bothering. It depresses me to think about it.
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Urgent Assistance Required by Anyone, Ladylee?
by Celtic inhiya!!
hope you all had a super marvellous weekend just gone, spent some of my time saturday and sunday, just floating quietly on my boat on the quiet and serenely beautiful waters of the helford river's creeks, stunningly beautiful it was, wow!!
came into work this morning, monday, as bright as a button, though straightaway received some bad news about a young lady from a fellow co-worker enabler at self direction community project.
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'C'
As so many have told you before, you are not alone. I too was thrown out of my home at an early age. The pain of seperation from my mother was unbearable. I know how it feels when your own mother rejects you. There are times when I can still feel that pain.
That happened nearly 20 years ago. I made it thru. I did it with the help of the 'truely' loving 'wordly' people around me. People who are friends of mine to this day. People who would not leave me stranded for any reason. 'Wordly' people who showed more love to me than ANY of the Jehovah's Witnesses that SAID they were my friends.
You will need to realize the definition of TRUE friendship. True friendship transends religous bounderies. You have found a friend in Adele. Keep her near to you and realize that SHE is the definition of true friendship.
You will find those types of friends here. We have all been touched in some way by the 'fair weather friendship' that excists within the orginization, and we all learned from our experiences what NOT to do. How NOT to act. Those horrible things have already been done to us. Most here would never inflict that pain on another. Our pain is still too fresh in our minds.
Feel free to vent here at any time. You always have a listening ear.I must agree with another poster, also. Therapy was of great help to me. I had to be strong when I was seperated from my family, and for the most part I did well. But it was like an act for me. I put on that strong face and did what had to be done to survive in the world on my own. But it wasn't until I got therapy that I finally FELT strong. It took a while for me to realize that it wasn't an act. It was ME. Me, being strong. I had it in me to do what had to be done. And so do you. You ARE strong.
Now for the happy ending. Remember one thing, your future is NOT pre- defined. You are your own destiny, and the Jehovah Witnesses that tell you your future is over are WRONG!! Think about it, they have been preaching their Armegeddon for a very long time. They have always said it would be soon. They have been wrong all along. They are NOT right now.
Go outside into the sunlight, look up, breath the newly fresh air and reailize, it's all your's. There are no limitations any more. The future is yours to do with as you please. You control it. You can do it, with a little help from those around you.
The best revenge is living well and being happy. You owe it to yourself to do both. You DESERVE both.
((((((C)))))))
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Here is something to hang door-to-door
by kenpodragon inthis is a sign we should make up and hang on doors in our neighborhoods.. .
just a idea.
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That is superb. But I don't think it should be a door hang. I think it should be posted at supermarkets and on lamp posts in the neighborhoods. Why waste all that wonderful information on just the stupid JW knocking on your door. Chances are you aren't telling them anything they don't already know anyway.
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Lets use our freedom of speech!!!!!!!!
by haujobbz ini think its about time we do something about jws organisation,we must take a stand and not hold back and the more of us that do it the better, otherwise there just going to get away with it in time.we must show these so called christians that we are powerful even if we r a minority.im up to making a stand by protest at assemblys.congregations etc.
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Well I LIKE the idea of using the word CULT. Any Joe on the street knows that if you have been in a cult and made it out, you have traveled a hard road. Apostate means nothing. And being an Ex- Jehovah's Witness doesn't mean much to most people either. There are way to many X-Catholics and X-Lutherans and X-whatevers. Lot's of people have Left their Religion. But not a lot of people have excaped a CULT. I think the word CULT will have impact.
My T-shirt says: I ESCAPED THE CULT
Maybe the back could say "Ex-Jehovah's Witness" But I really think that even that nullifies the CULT comment somehow. It lessens the impact.
Maybe It should just say "I escaped the cult" and we could let people ask which one.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Does anybody like the idea???
-P(J)
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Artcile in St Petersberg times
by nowaytess inhere is an artice on jehovah's witnesses which was run in the st petersburg times this morning.
i have been in touch with the reporter, sharon tubbs, of this article.
she is well aware of the dateline and wt polices toward child molesters.. http://www.sptimes.com/2002/07/11/floridian/the_other_side_of_the.shtml.
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Jeremy is walking alongside his mother. They stop at one house displaying a "No Soliciting" sign, but are not deterred. Mrs. Berger says she figures the sign applies to people selling things, not Witnesses spreading good news. Unless a sign says specifically "No Jehovah's Witnesses" -- which some do -- she generally knocks.
I know I am probably stating the obvious, but in the Supreme Court Case re: Stanton, Wasn't one of the options the Witnesses gave the town that they could put up "No Soliciting" signs???
And yet here they are(as we all knew they would) saying it doesn't apply to them.
GRRRR! They lie sooo blatently and get away with it.
Just had to vent.
Sorry
-P(J)
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My B/F told me he's a J/W after months of dating!
by Funky_Diva_53_2000 inhi, i'm 17 and i've just recently become a member of this website and i want you to know what has happened to me over the past months.back in sep/oct 2001 i started chatting to a 20 year old bloke via the internet and we developed a great friendship over the net.we would talk online for ages,text and phone each other loads,we sent each other photos of ourselves and he would often put his webcam on for me to see.before i knew it he played a great part in my everyday life...and i spent so much time chatting to him that my college work suffered a lot & i wasn't doing my coursework (i eventually got told to leave as i hadn't done loads of the assignments and stuff & had fallen behind).
after about 6 months we arranged to meet up (i made sure my parents were at home coz i know it's dodgy to meet people from the internet).anyway,he came round my house one evening in march and we got along soo well...he lives quite locally too which was good.our friendship then grew into a relationship and we started dating and going out together,i was sooo happy and i fell for him in a massive way & he said he felt the same way too.to me,he was a girls dream come true...he was kind,caring,fit,good-looking & gentle and i loved him to bits!,i still do,and i thought we'd be together forever.
something that i did find a bit strange though was i hadn't met his family yet or heard my boyfriend talk much about them.i would question him about his family but he seemed to get a bit funny about it and when i mentioned about meeting his family he said something along the lines of ''they're a bit strange,you might not like them'' (or something like that anyway).that got me thinking and i though prehaps they lived in a run-down place or something,or they wern't very nice people and i thought my b/f could be ashamed to let me meet them.i thought to myself to give him time & he'll see that i'm an understanding & nice person and hoped that he would soon come out and tell me what the problem was (thinking it was about what i've just mentioned).
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Funky Diva-
I just have to re-iterate something here in case you missed it. That wonderful boyfriend of yours has, as far as he AND his religion are concerned, had SEX. If everything came out today, he would be disfellowshipped for his actions. The fact that he hasn't been, means he hasn't been honest with someone.
I know this is tough, but knowing how much he is lying to continue things with you, could you really trust him? I mean think about it. In order to be seeing you at all, he has got to be lying through his eye teeth to someone. The fact that you have had oral sex,,,,. That is sooo illegal in that religion. As someone else said, YOU CAN'T EVEN DO THAT WHEN YOU ARE MARRIED.
I'm sorry for stating things already said, but it is REALLY important that you understand what is happening around you.
-P(J)
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Age Sex Location Occupation Anyone?
by Perfection Seeker in.
33 female iowa massage therapist happily married no children (yet).
anyone else?
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