Posts by pandora

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Stopping smoking - any suggestions?

by be wise in

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hi, i smoke, not loads, but i would like to stop.

i think i will find it really hard though and was wondering how you stopped if you were a previous smoker.

i also suffer from asthma which obviously doesn't make things any better.

pandora

I quit on October the 7th. I started using the patch. Then I read the following words at a website about quitting.

http://www.quitsmoking.com/info/articles/spitzer/quitcold.html

"Cutting down on cigarettes or use of nicotine replacement strategies throws the smoker into a chronic state of drug withdrawal. As soon as the smoker fails to reach the minimum requirement of nicotine, the body starts demanding it. As long as there is any nicotine in the bloodstream, the body will demand its old requirement. Smoking just one or two a day or wearing a patch which is gradually reducing the amount of nicotine being delivered will result in the smoker not achieving the minimum required level, creating a chronic state of peak drug withdrawal.

This state will continue throughout the rest of the smoker's life unless one of two steps is taken to rectify it. First, the smoker can stop delivering nicotine altogether. Nicotine will be metabolized or totally excreted from the body and the withdrawal will stop forever. Or, the smoker can return to the old level of consumptions accomplishing nothing.

Therefore, cold turkey is the method of choice. Once the smoker stops, withdrawal will end within two weeks."

I stayed on the patch for only 4 days. Two weeks to the day after I took that patch off, the worst was over. I feel great now .

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All hell has broke loose

by Yesterdays Child in

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when i got home from work last night my son was there and i was suprise to see him because it was meeting night and everyone else was gone.

then his mother comes in hmmmmmm "did your son tell you what he has done?

" nope well he has been having sex with his girlfriend the baptized pioneer elders daughter yikes my son (not baptized) and her were girlfriend and boyfriend untill her daddy stop them from seeing each other.

pandora

My neice, who just graduated high school last week, will be getting married in November, because she is horny.

I know I am young, but I would rather MY child experience a little more of life before she goes and dedicates her LIFE to some guy she is in lust with.

When you are horney, nothing else matters. You don't see clearly! It is no time to be making life changing decisions. They have no idea what they are getting into. When they find out,,,, well, that is some pretty expensive sex. How much does a divorce cost? Or, neither will be happy, and because neither has cheated, they just live in a crappy marrage, in a crappy religion.

Just my 2 cents. I'm not too happy about this empending marrage.

-P(J)

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Inky got a letter from her son.............you have to read this

by Mulan in

our niece, irene, who posts here as inky, sent me an email.

her 27 year old son is getting married in two weeks, and she posted a few days ago about how he didn't invite her to his wedding.. she told me i can post it as she doesn't want to read it again.. "dear mom.

i've needed to write this letter to you for some time now.

pandora

I didn't take the time to read every last reply to this message. Whether I express an opinion already expressed is not relavent.

I am sooo sorry that the WT has brainwashed him soo completely. It is a tragedy. HUGS TO YOU. You deserve them all. I am soo sorry.

((((((((((((INKY))))))))))))))))))))))

There is not much that can be said. And nothing can replace your family. But you are among friends here. We all know how it feels, and we understand your pain.

You are in my heart.

-P(J)

13

Mormons Last Night

by NeonMadman in

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i mentioned last week in another thread that some mormons were to be coming by.

the way all this came about was that, in late april, my wife and i went to las vegas for a few days.

she was assigned by her company to attend a conference there, and, since i had never been more than a few miles west of the mississippi river, decided to tag along to see the sights.

pandora

It's probably a little late to ask this question. I'm coming into this topic a day late and a dollar short. But hopefully someone will read this that will answer.

Your assignment is to compare the BOM and the bible. Is there any comparison? Are the books suppose to be the same? or complimentary? or what? What do they say about their BOM verses the bible. Could you explain that to me? I don't know anything about the Mormans.

Thank you.

-P(J)

20

New JWD BIRTHDAY CALENDAR

by nicolaou in

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it's been over five months since the last calendar was updated so if you're not on it just post your birthday here and i'll get you on.. the calendar is at http://www.do-not-call.org/jwdcalendar.doc why not stick it in your favorites?.

nic'

pandora

My birthday is May 26th.

P-(J)

15

Self confidence

by joelbear in

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anyone who has read my history of posts knows that one of my struggles is trying to find and build self confidence.. what is it about being a jw that can tear down someone's self confidence?.

i'm a smart guy.

i have a 4.0 gpa.

pandora

What is the belief in god? In the end, it is a way of putting the responsibility for your own life onto someone else. ie. God.

Once you realise that you control your happiness, your self confidence blossoms because you realise YOU have the power.

YOU!

My opinion.

-P(J)

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To dream or not to dream

by teejay in

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azaria started a thread yesterday asking: of all the people who have ever lived, who would we most like to spend a day with?

several made very touching comments about a parent or grandparent and it got me to thinking about something.

my (loyal jw) mother has issues of her own not all of them jw related but she and i have always gotten along although we've never really been that close.

pandora

I think reality. Dreams are nice, but reality is,,um, real. Why base any important decision on something that is not real?

If god could be proven or disproven, existance would have real meaning. If disproven, then this is the life you get. Live it to the fullest. Today could be your last day. Love the ones around you like it is. Spend everyday appreciating THIS life, as apposed to waiting on the next life.

If god is proven, then cool. Maybe there is something else. But I want proof of that too.

In closing. You knew your parents. You are fortunate. There are many who don't know theirs. So your father wasn't perfect. He was your's. Look in the mirror. Beyond what you see with your eyes. Do you like who you are? If so, he was a part of your making. He can't be that bad. You're pretty cool. Mom had the same part in your making. So, you don't always see eye to eye. It is the diversity of our backgrounds that make us who we are. And all of us here are pretty cool.

Reality. Definately.

-P(J)

edited to correct grammer

16

I stumped my dub mom

by SpiceItUp in

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so last night me and my mother had a long 2 hour conversation on all sorts of stuff...... mainly......truth, faith, the bible and apostacy.

i asked her if the bible could be used without any other book.

she of coarse said yes.

pandora

Spice,

Those arguments are soo great!!! I will have to use them on my mom next time we speak. Actually I think she is kinda scared of me right now. She is coming to grips with her loss of power in the face of my loss of belief. It will be a while before we talk again. If you don't mind, I will be copying this to have at my fingertips for our future conversation.

Thanks,

-P(J)

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How Many Here Are DF'd, Disassociated Or Not Worried That They Might?

by minimus in

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i'm curious as to whether the majority of the board's disfellowshipped.

and i'm curious as to whether or not push came to shove, that you would not be overly distressed if you did wind up getting df'd........as time goes on, i am caring less.

pandora

DA'd back in 86 or 87. Don't remember which. I was only 17 or so. I was just so happy to get out from underneath all those rules. I could not be DF'd because I had never gotten baptised. Lucky me. Now my mom can call and preach at me if she so chooses. Thankfully, she doesn't choose to waste her time on me too much.

-P(J)

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"You're not that bright, are you?"

by berylblue in

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that's what a co-worker said to me today.

now, i admit that i'm in a benzodiazapine withdrawal induced daze all of the time (did more research on this and it's quite possibly going to last another half a year or more...one person, who stopped klonopin 18 months ago described it as "always feeling as though i am just coming off an acid trip", which i don't know about but i can imagine), but i thought this was kind of mean.. i miss my daughters; they are never going to speak to me again, i feel so isolated here, i'm ashamed of the entire benzo withdrawal thing, ashamed that i can't hold a real job, just really, really down.. al stewart, as always, said it much better than i ever could:.

"well sometimes it seems impossible that the game could get that rough.

pandora

I have found a really simple way of shutting people up when they are rude. It is not very hard to do, but for some reason feels like it is. I don't know why I don't do it more myself. Everytime I have ever done it, it has netted me an appology.

To answer the quoted question above, you say: "Excuse me,but THAT was rude!" That simple sentence gets people back pedeling. For some reason, people hate to be told that they are rude. When they are told so, they immediately appologize or say that it wasn't meant like that, or whatever they can think of that quick.

It's hard to bring yourself to say something like that to anyone. I know. I have problems with it myself. But EVERYTIME I do, it works. I keep telling myself that if they can be that rude, I can sure as hell call 'em on it.

But I still have to work on it myself.

Just thought you would like to have a reply for the next rude person.

Don't let them get to you too much.

-P(J)