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  It is official they're selling off Kingdom Halls in Britain

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i posted here a week ago some disturbing news for congregations being consolidated in britain.

  my goodness that was nothing !

  a letter was read today from bethel addressed to all congregations in britain that can only be described as the biggest news for years.the main points:.

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  but when a "company" starts selling off the family silver, i.e. it's physical assets, isn't that usually a classic sign of "panic" or at least a company in crisis?

  i think it means a shift in business model IMO. The Watchtower is realizing that it cannot rely on donations from litera-trash anymore,l especially as they shift to a digital focused approach. This real estate scam they have going on is a much better alternative or at least a complement to the litera-trash revenue.

  Build halls with free labor for a fraction of real-world cost, hold it for a few years while they suck off congregation payments, then sell it at market value. You can expect this scam to go on, which will inevitably extend to bethel installations.
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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

  1. social
  2. current

  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  But, read this line again, the very first paragraph of the article in discussion:

  @apostrate, that's simply the way the writer of the news piece decided to explain the issue. It doesn't mean the law actually tries to do that. Journalists often try to position things in the most controversial way possible as to draw the most attention to the article.

  It is not possible for a law to force a religious movement to accept homosexuality, since this would infringe on their religious rights. What is being done here is to simply make sure that a business doesn't discriminate between people. The business just happens to be a wedding chappel run by two people who call themselves pastors, but in the eyes of the law, it's just a business and two businesss owners.
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  Nov 2014 KM - a text message counts as a return visit!

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you don't know, km's are now online too.

  under the heading, "i cannot find him at home again!

  " it mentions how a text message or email is to be counted as a return visit.

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  Being a JW these days is actually not all that hard anymore. Instead of knocking on strangers doors, you can simply stand on a corner with a book cart as the clock ticks away. Then to follow up, you can send a text message or email (cause you know how effective those are).

  You don't even need to carry around a huge bag of books to the meeting. All you need is an IPAD. Less convention days, less meetings days, easier to preach, digital litera-trash.

  I'm almost positive that once the meeting attendance starts going down, they will implement live webcasts of meetings, which you can attend from home. Then they will simply count attendance as viewers of the webcast. you'll be able to donate via paypall
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  New JW Podcast Show - Amazing Interview with Irwin Zalkin!

  by God_Delusion in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello guys & gals!.

  we've just launched our brand new episode, s01e01 - irwin zalkin, which we recorded last night.. you can listen to it right here - http://www.jwpodcast.org/2014/11/03/s01e01-irwin-zalkin.

  in this ground-breaking bumper show, we interview irwin zalkin, the lawyer who filed and won this new child abuse case against the watchtower organisation, which saw the victim, jose lopez awarded $13.5 million.. i think you'll agree with me (after listening to the interview) that irwin really knows his 'watchtower' stuff!.

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  I still have a hard time understanding how they were allowed to simply not comply with several court orders to release records. I have never, ever, heard of such a thing without some sort of severe punishment. I mean not to long ago, Yahoo refused to hand over some data related to a court case and it was imposed a $250,000 fine for every day it refused to hand over the data. I'm pretty sure even the arrogant pricks at the Watchtower would hand it over if they had heavy sanctions handed to them.
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  Do any Bethel/WT ip addresses visit here often?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  website owners can get reports of ip addresses that visit their website.

  it would be funny to find out if this site gets regular visits from wt locations.

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  I don't think it necessarily speaks to the importance of the website, although I do admit i share in the morbid curiosity of knowing this.

  However, because of the way people access the internet, it's almost useless to look that up. Every cat in bethel has an internet capable cell phone, and only a complete moron would use a "company" computer to access this website. Then again, these are bethelites we are talking about...
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  Science is right in its details, but wrong in its direction

  by exWTslave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  science observes, studies and analyses the basic nature of all the components constituting the part of any experiment, follows the principle of cause and effect, and come out with equipments that would contribute to our comfort and save us lots of time and energyall of which are ultimately aimed at making life on this earth happier, longer and healthier, thus making this world a better place to live.. yet man day-by-day becomes more and more unhappy and discontented, and world is becoming bitter and bitter!

  it means: though science is right in its details, it has gone wrong in its direction.

  it failed to rightly judge and assess the true nature of its prime object (man) for whom it works.

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  Yet man day-by-day becomes more and more unhappy and discontented, and world is becoming bitter and bitter!

  Says who? It sounds you are doing a bit of introspection there. There has never, ever, been a better time to be alive in this planet. It is an inevitable tendency of humans to claim that current times are the worst ever as they melancholically reminisce about past times.

  Please tell me another time in human history so that we can compare with today.

  Also you speak of science as if you are comparing with other options? Which options are those? Is there anything else in human history that has done anything significant to improve human lives?

  The fact is that science is all we have. Nothing else will bail you out, and at the end of the day regardless of what you claim to believe, you too will show by your actions that this is true.

  if you fall ill with cancer, you too will bow down to science and quickly abandon the "facacta" dream that you can simply stay home and pray to an imaginary man in the sky to cure you. And if tomorrow a meteorite is on course to hit the earth, all nations on earth will quickly trash their "In God we trust" mantras, and quickly scramble to find a scientific salvation.
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  WT lawsuits - Gog of Magog - Coalition of Nations - Courts of Law - Bankruptcy

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what if the society know it only has to lose one big case to lose a whole set of cases on precedent of the first case?.

  this means they will lose millions of dollars in lawsuits and settlements.

  which means their financial stability is under threat.

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  The precendent has already been set in reality. There are several lawsuits on-going which are related to the one the WT just lost - other victims. It's safe to say that there is a good chance the Org will lose those too.

  Also according to the lawyer who is representing the victims, the Watchtower is being totally uncooperative with the courts, and this will not go well in the long run. There are also a few other dozen cases which are on-going for ther abuse cases, so we'll see how those go, but i have the WT loses all of them.
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  comment from an uber dub regarding the $13.5 sex abuse case will just blow you away.

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i was talking to an uber dub friend last night who lives in the san diego area.

  he knew nothing of the $13.5 million dollar law suit.

  when i tried to tell him that this is a systemic problem, and that this could perhaps be the tip of the ice burgh.

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  The reaction that i've heard from a JW is that it's all lies. These news are part of Satan's media and should not be believed. That's how pathetic it has become that they choose not to believe the news so that they don't have to explain it.
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  Guarding the Kingdom Hall on Halloween

  by Clambake in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a. have you ever been called to do this ??.

  b. does it count as field service.. c. what are you suppose to do if you catch someone throwing eggs at the kingdom hall.

  run them down and beat them up ??

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  Why can't Jehoober guard his own house? If he can't guard his own house, then what can he guard?
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  New JW Podcast Show - Amazing Interview with Irwin Zalkin!

  by God_Delusion in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello guys & gals!.

  we've just launched our brand new episode, s01e01 - irwin zalkin, which we recorded last night.. you can listen to it right here - http://www.jwpodcast.org/2014/11/03/s01e01-irwin-zalkin.

  in this ground-breaking bumper show, we interview irwin zalkin, the lawyer who filed and won this new child abuse case against the watchtower organisation, which saw the victim, jose lopez awarded $13.5 million.. i think you'll agree with me (after listening to the interview) that irwin really knows his 'watchtower' stuff!.

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  I just heard it. Really great insight on what happens in the legal back rooms of the WT abuse cases. Also according to the lawyer, there are many more cases about to surface.