Posts by Patriot

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TRO VS PPO court orders

by exodus in

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any one on this db knows if i should use a temporary restraining order or a personal protection order.

i can't remember the difference between them.

if anybody has any information please let know as soon as possible.

Patriot

anybody knocking tonight?

You know I'll take care of it bor, I'm their worst nightmare an xJW with a badge!

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!ONE MORE ELDER FACING WTS EXECUTION Part II.!

by exodus in

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after i came home last night i sat down to have dinner when five minutes later i received a phone call.

i did not picked up the phone.

then it rang again and refuse to answer it so i let the answering machine handle it.

!ONE MORE ELDER FACING WTS EXECUTION Part II.!

by exodus in

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after i came home last night i sat down to have dinner when five minutes later i received a phone call.

i did not picked up the phone.

then it rang again and refuse to answer it so i let the answering machine handle it.

Patriot

You know-you are a complete moron, do you know that?

If you read the post, he was with his best friend-that just happens to be ME. We were 35 mins. away on personal business when we got the call that this crack crew were pounding on his door. If he were there he would of confonted them, but you seem to think that Exodus is so great that he can be in 2 places at the same time.

One part he left out was that these "elders" staked out the place for about 1hr and a half. That is pure harrasment plain and simple.

But since you know nothing your only recourse is to keep jumping to conclusions.

Geez, don't you get tired of being wrong? You bore me son....keep singing the same tune, but noones listening.

Mav-

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Psalm 50: JEHOVAH'S JUDICIAL RULINGS

by You Know in

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the 50th psalm is one of jehovah's as-of-yet-unrevealed judicial decisions that will become operative upon his people during the tribulation.

the following is a brief overview of the chapter.. "the divine one, god, jehovah, has himself spoken,.

and he proceeds to call the earth.

Patriot

Again you know nothing,

"those now in rebellion against God will chose to die rather than submit to
his word."

The rebellion is not against God, it's against those who say that God has sent them with some "special" message and claim to be the mediator between us and Jesus.

But I must admit, You do know something...I WOULD RATHER DIE than to submit to the legalistic approach to religion as is the case with the WTBTS. Because you see as I figure it, and so do you, there is no hell, there is nothing after life but eternal sleep (except for the 144,000, as you say) so what do I have to fear? Death? HA!

There is nothing that You or the WTBS or the streets that I grew up in or the countries that I have been to that will scare me by saying that I will die forever. So again,

You KNow nothing so change your strategy guy.....you bore me.

Mav-

Don't go where the path may lead.......go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.

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!!ONE MORE ELDER FACING WTS EXECUTION !

by exodus in

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well, here it is, after almost 20 years 12 of those serving in position of responsibility it comes down to my spiritual execution(jw style).

allow me to explain.

for those who you who still remember me from h20 under the name truthexodus i came to post my experience as an elder of local congregation in nyc area.

Patriot

Anytime Exodus,

It their loss, the WTS is hurting for elders especially P.O.'s like you used to be. Good men are hard to find.

But thats alright , I think Fred wants to be in charge for awhile.

Mav-
When you are intelligent, you know many things....but when you are SMART you do what you know, you USE your intelligence.

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Vietnam War Pioneers

by MadApostate in

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during the same weekend conversation which stimulated my recollection of "1975 stockpiling", i also recalled the "vietnam war pioneer" phenomenon -at least that's what i call it.

i thought i would post something about it to see if others remember this.. during the 1960s, when the draft started to supply troops for the vietnam "conflict", a phenomenon developed in our area, at least, and i'm wondering if this occurred nationwide?

(i can't remember if this was officially handled in the mags and from the stage, or if it was just another one of those things that was affected quietly behind the scenes.).

Patriot

Thats ok N. Nates,

"I had some regrets about failing to serve my country - many of my generation had made great sacrifices, right or wrong, and I saw myself as just having skated by."

My father served and I was told by my mother that he was never the same. He would only talk to us about once a day briefly. He had an old scrap book in his closet that he would only look at like once every 5 years while drunk and crying. His friends in those pics. never came back. The only one that did still lives in my neighborhood collecting cans and drunk most of the time.

My dad died earlier this year and only now can he find the rest that he's been looking for all these years.

Everyone makes their own types of contributions and sacrifices you might think that yours is not important but to your family it was probably the biggest decision you could have made...and the best.

"I don't know why I left, but I know I was wrong,
but it won't be long, 'till I get on back home.

I got a letter in the mail, say go to war or go to jail,
but it won't be long, 'till I get on back home.

Momma momma don't you cry, you little boy aint going to die,
cause it won't be long 'till I get on back home."

Mav-.

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Hello

by Cassandra in

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i have been lurking for months now and want to say hello.

i was raised a jw and am now 46yrs old.

i stopped attending meetings at the beginning of this year for various reasons and only then gained the courage to check the net and see if anyone else like me was out there.

Patriot

Hello Cassandra and welcome,

I think that all of us here has gone through that same situation, thats why we all come here to chat with each other and find a certain amount of comfort in knowing the similiar circumstances that brought us here.

My wife was the same way as your husband; she did not want to reason over the set rules.

But what did it for her was the way that I was interrogated 5 times by the C.O. and then by the elders over a blood quetion that was asked to me by a "spiritually weak" brother. Since I was an M.S. pioneer and already recommended for elder this brother thought that I might have an answer.

I did not so I turned to the elders. Instead of just saying that they did not know anything, 2 months past and waited for the C.O. and then "told" on me. Said that I was trying to undermind the brother's spirituality! Can you believe that?!

At this time I still had no knowledge of any "apostate" thinking of info. Yet I was still called to a Judicial Commitee and stripped of my position and told that I waould have to demonstrate maturity so I can get to my posotion again.

After that noone, I mean NOONE, has called me since. And although I'm not disfellowshipped or anything, they had a talk that warned people about "smooth talkers" who are intelligent and can word their way around things.

After that the JW's started their usual gossip routine which ruined my rep. and my "mother's, brother, sisters" which I have known since I was BORN, no longer loved me. Till today noone has still contacted me.

That did it for my wife, she saw that there is really no true love but only harsh rules and regulations that don't come close to what Jesus taught. So now we are both happy to be free and glad to have friends like those on this board who can help us trough tuff times.

Hope we can do the same for U.

Patriot/Mav

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You Can Have True Faith - Oct 1, 2001 WT

by MrMoe in

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any comments on the latest watchtower?

just got it in the mail today.

it discusses your faith, true faith, lost faith and to follow the bible.

Patriot

Anyone mind posting the article for those of us who don't have the "latest spiritual food"?

Need to keep up with "God's celestial chariot".

Mav-

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ELDER IN NYC MOLEST NIECE!!

by Patriot in

truely sad how more and more cases are surfacing.. this latest in a spanish hall in uptown manhattan, nyc.. i've known this elder for many years, he's the type that swears he is the most righteous, the most strict and most "spiritual".. 7 years ago he and his wife took temporary custody of their 2 nephews and 1 niece, she was about 7.. this because their mother was disfellowshipped and did not fulfill her responsibility with the minors.. everyone in the hall thought that he was a god..he took them under his roof , clothed them and fed them and above all took them an field service and to the meetings.. he would always walk holding his niece's hand..but noone thought anything about it..until about 3 weeks ago when the accusations were made and brought to the elders.. he is on the run and has not been seen since last week.

the authorities have not been notified (typical wts).. he was escorted out of their home by the nypd but only because he refused the counsel to leave the premises.. what excuse was given to the police to lead him out, i don't know.

but after that he tried to bunk in with a pioneer sister from his hall but when she found out about all this (being that jw's know how to keep confidential matters to themselves),.

Patriot

Source just told me that the niece is getting pressured into not talking to anyone about this situation.

If thats the case then I don't see the authorities getting involved,.......unless they get an anonymous call..

heh, heh, heh....

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ELDER IN NYC MOLEST NIECE!!

by Patriot in

truely sad how more and more cases are surfacing.. this latest in a spanish hall in uptown manhattan, nyc.. i've known this elder for many years, he's the type that swears he is the most righteous, the most strict and most "spiritual".. 7 years ago he and his wife took temporary custody of their 2 nephews and 1 niece, she was about 7.. this because their mother was disfellowshipped and did not fulfill her responsibility with the minors.. everyone in the hall thought that he was a god..he took them under his roof , clothed them and fed them and above all took them an field service and to the meetings.. he would always walk holding his niece's hand..but noone thought anything about it..until about 3 weeks ago when the accusations were made and brought to the elders.. he is on the run and has not been seen since last week.

the authorities have not been notified (typical wts).. he was escorted out of their home by the nypd but only because he refused the counsel to leave the premises.. what excuse was given to the police to lead him out, i don't know.

but after that he tried to bunk in with a pioneer sister from his hall but when she found out about all this (being that jw's know how to keep confidential matters to themselves),.

Patriot

Truely sad how more and more cases are surfacing.

This latest in a spanish hall in uptown manhattan, nyc.

I've known this elder for many years, he's the type that swears he is the most righteous, the most strict and most "spiritual".

7 years ago he and his wife took temporary custody of their 2 nephews and 1 niece, she was about 7.
This because their mother was disfellowshipped and did not fulfill her responsibility with the minors.

Everyone in the hall thought that he was a god..he took them under his roof , clothed them and fed them and above all took them an field service and to the meetings.

He would always walk holding his niece's hand..but noone thought anything about it..until about 3 weeks ago when the accusations were made and brought to the elders.

He is on the run and has not been seen since last week. The authorities have not been notified (typical WTS).
He was escorted out of their home by the NYPD but only because he refused the counsel to leave the premises.

What excuse was given to the police to lead him out, I don't know. But after that he tried to bunk in with a pioneer sister from his hall but when she found out about all this (being that JW's know how to keep confidential matters to themselves),
She told him to leave. After that he has not been seen.

How this will play out, I don't know. I know that B. Bowen is in Washington but I will let him know.

Truely sad...I've know this man since I was just a boy.

I will keep you guys posted with any new developments.

Maverick