hello folks.
i don't have too much time to look through all the posts regarding the ngo/dpi and the wtbts but i was told by a friend and would like to confirm that the un is having a meeting about all this tomorrow and that it is open to the public.. is there any truth to this?
if so i'll take the day off and go.. mav.-
Hello folks
I don't have too much time to look through all the posts regarding the NGO/DPI and the WTBTS but I was told by a friend and would like to confirm that the UN is having a meeting about all this tomorrow and that it is open to the public.
Is there any truth to this? If so I'll take the day off and go.
Mav.-
...at least at the one in my state.
found out that they read a letter sunday at one of the congregations going to the october 7 meeting.
there will be hired armed security guards with metal detectors at the door, everyone will have to go through before being allowed in.. they also said that you're not allowed to bring in any bags like lunch coolers, and that you may be physically searched.
Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, LOL!!!
Roscoe P. Co'!
Damn I haven't heard that name in the longest! I think I watched every episode of the Dukes of Hazzard.
Thanks for that laugh Esmeralda!
Mav.-
do you remember those truly wonderful occasions when the meeting was in full swing, and something/one would make you laugh uncontrollably............so much so that you had to go out.
(and yes, your were sat on the front row!
you would go out and feel terribly guilty, and when you thought you were under control, you would venture back in only to find that the air was still full of laughter (on your row)..............truly wonderful meetings!!
When I was a kid a brother was was being used more and more (movin' on up) was called to give the ending prayer after a Sunday meeting. Well he was as shocked as everyone. You could tell that he was in pieces while the song came to the last sentence.
When he got up he said: "Let us bow our heads to Jehovah...." then nothing,...we kept waiting...nothing...when we looked up the brother had used the opportunity to run down the aisle and out the door!!!
Our row was in tears we were laughing so hard. Some other brother eventually got up and said a quick prayer.
But the damage was done. The other brother didn't show back up for about a month!
Mav.-
as a witness what occupation did/do you hold?.
i was speaking with a friend of mine that is a former witness and we remarked about how many of us have worked in some sort of janitorial work.
"The worst part of the WT's anti-intellectualism is not the fact that few JWs achieve higher education (it is not necessary to attend college or university to be educated), but the fact that so many deprive themselves of opportunities to learn independently."
You're so right Chris, you're so right..
as a witness what occupation did/do you hold?.
i was speaking with a friend of mine that is a former witness and we remarked about how many of us have worked in some sort of janitorial work.
Was talked out of getting my masters in music.
Was told exactly this : "Education is Satan's biggest scam in this system of things". (By an elder).
Disappeared off the radar as I joined the Army, kicked Iraqi ass, came back and hit the meetings again. ha,ha,ha, they still don't know.
Took a part time Building Superintendents position-still have it but went to school on the "DL".
Now I'm part of the NYPD and laughing because as a super (which the elders told me would be best for me to be able to increase my hours) I don't pay rent or utilities !!
just received word from my parents who were visiting with a bethelite [8>] couple over the week end (circuit assembly).. my dad's on the defensive because i have begun to tell him exactly what i think og the wbts.. anyhow he wanted to let me know, per this couple, the jw are housing firefighters and even feeding them!
my response?
"good.
"One of the posting I read said they were down at ground zero ministering to the workers. "
Absolutely a false statement. Unless you had an official Badge and ID you could not get near ground Zero. Unless you went early in the morning (before 8) you could not be used as a volunteer (first week only). And you HAD TO WORK , not no preaching! Now you have to be a certified Firefighter,rescue worker, nurse, EMT, Policeman etc. Trust me no Jws around.
I did not even see them in the areas set up for the Doctors. Now maybe there were one or two around witnessing on the "DL" but I sure didn't see any.
Although I don't have any proof, I seriously doubt that firemen were being housed at Bethel. There are enough temporary housing options for them and I don't remember the WTBTS being up on the list. Again I really don't know but it sure doesn't sound right.
The WT contributions for these kind of "things" is to "help" people by preaching to them. Like they say, theres only one solution to this and that is God's Kingdom..."so theres no sense in giving money to something that ios still going to happen until God takes action".
Mav.-
due to the fact that god almighty jehovah,.
is displeased over the "divisiveness" of this once very.
worthy publication,and also that the "oversight" is as.
YYYAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNN!
Are you for real man?
in these days of the great cowboys preparing for the man-hunt, here are some lines telling what the mediterranean/european sentiments are, as published by a political commentator.
i just quote them to show the us-europe gap:.
un minuto de silencio... .
Yeah..oldhippie,huh?
Your comments reminds me of the kind of reasoning that went around the same time as the vietnam era (according to my Dad, I was too young to remember).
It was thinking like that that left him and his squad out there by themselves. Out of 15 only 3 came back, him included.
You think thats what we want? You think kicking Iraqs ass was out of line? What about Yugoslavia? Somalia?
It's easy to criticize while we sit back at home and watch everything on CNN as most of the people do. Put on a flak jacket and kevlar, load your M-16 and jump out of a perfectly good aircraft at 3500ft. into a country so barren and where your greeting party is armed with hate and ak-47s and you just might have a different view of things.
See frankly the US needs not the sympathy of other countries. Our greatest allies will always back us-thats enough.
This is a mission that will take time. Of course people will start to lose interest and countries will think that enough is enough, but again and with no disrespect, we will say thanks for your help anyway.
Being prior military, I can tell you that Yerusalyim is right. I can almost guarantee that Spec. Ops is in place and conducting
Recon missions. They will seek out targets and "tag" them for our Air force to destroy. This is done to minimize unnecessary casualties.
The "Chief cowboy" might make statements that you don't understand, but then again you don't have to. Try to run a country of this magnitude and you just might understand.
This has nothing to do with feeling "cow-boyish". This has to do with eliminating a possible threat that endangers our way of life. We will not stand for it, no matter how long no matter what it takes.
Mav.-
several years prior to the release of the first edition of "the watchtower library" in england on cd rom in 1994, the society made an announcement that back-issues of bound volumes of the watchtower and awake would be available (for sale) by ordering through the literature desk.. many in the congregation had wanted a complete library of watchtowers for years and there was a frenzy of orders placed.
i, myself, ordered the complete collection.. however, upon receiving news of the cd rom becoming available, i wondered just why the society had made so many old re-prints available when they must have known about the future release of the cd.. this also coincided with the rules changing in england for the charging / donating for literature and i distictly remember a talk by an elder saying how much we should donate for the cd through the new donation process... something like "a comparible encylopedia on cd rom would cost 30 to 40 in the shops - so how much do you think we should donate for this treasure of god-given knowledge".. it just struck me that the literature sell-off was a last ditch attempt at making money, for fear that the cd rom combined with the new donation programme would spell disaster for the societys income.. any thoughts?.
i need a more recent copy of the cd rom if anyone has one?
Hey Ballistic,
I remember a cong. in Man. NYC that when the society switched to donations, had an increase of orders for cd's and videos. Anyway apparently the bro's were not contributing the "recommended" amount of $$ so believe it or not we got a letter from the society which said that basically we ordered so many cd's and videos and the total donations to the WWW (worlwide work) was such and such amount and get this. that WE OWED THEM A TOTAL OF 2 thousand some odd $$!!!
Gee talk about receiving free, giving free.
Maybe they should have stopped bulding the extra wing at Patterson (in those days).
Mav.-
i think we should all objurgate those who boast about donating to the sep 11th fund, red cross, or any other loser fund.. that dumb ass mayor giuliani is the worst thing that could happen to ny, he absolutely fettered the rescue work to a grinding halt.
the hard working, almost indefatigable rescue workers could have accomplished something with the billions of pounds of rubble, if only that asshole epicene giuliani knew what he was doing, and was capable of coordinating and directing a massive rescue mission.. all the dollars you are pulling out of your pockets are now wasted because of that ass.
there are no survivors left (because of that ass).
Sorry FM, but you have no clue of what your talking about.
Of course you can voice your opinion-because thats what it amounts to. And you know what they say about those.
First of all Guliani is one of the best the city has seen. He has gotten things done that others just talk about. If you live in NYC then you should know better. If you don't, then again, you don't know jack.
Your ignorance is clear whan you say : " if only that asshole epicene giuliani knew what he was doing, and was capable of
coordinating and directing a massive rescue mission."
It is not the Mayor's job or position to coordinate a "massive" rescue mission. This is left to Federal authorities. Like FEMA and the FBI an the criminal side.. The Feds call all the shots retard so at least try to sound like if you know what your talking about. We are all out of it. The Mayor is given reports and updates out of professional courtesy-thats it!
As far as the money is concerned, are you that stupid? Who said the Mayor gets and let alone controls the money?
You said:" I just think you should be sending money my way, I make a better mayor than Giuliani."
Spoken like a Jdub. People died, many people died, including my co-workers and your talking about sending YOU money?
No matter what kind of point you're trying to make..do yourself a favor and don't fuck around with comments like that.
It's pathetic and not upbuilding or encouraging in any way.
MAV.-
