Posts by Phizzy

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F. W. Franz epic talk May 11, 1975 (clip)

by lastmanstanding in

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1vwxeenkkoary-efyhnt75iqmagx0yywf.

f. w. franz "times in which we are particularly interested" may 11, 1975. ;introduced by kenneth a. little, a much younger man than now for sure.. the clip is 8 minutes.. unfortunately, some idiot recorded over part of this day many years ago.

i am hoping to find another copy in the box..

Phizzy

" Maybe other people are more open minded to the idea the JW religion can reform or have a revival..but I’m done with it." LHgirl.

I'm long done with it too ! I don't think that any creating of Doctrine along mad Freddy lines, re-interpreting old meanings of "Bible Prophecies" would have any effect on recruitment, or retention. I do think the Org will have to move with the times or wither away over the next few years. The Internet will finish them wherever it is available, unless they get a grip.

To keep trying to maintain Control by denying Education to JW's will not wash when it will be plain that just to live a reasonable life, everyone needs some marketable skills to get a reasonably paying job. Minimum wage JW's will be rare, and of course, foolish.

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F. W. Franz epic talk May 11, 1975 (clip)

by lastmanstanding in

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1vwxeenkkoary-efyhnt75iqmagx0yywf.

f. w. franz "times in which we are particularly interested" may 11, 1975. ;introduced by kenneth a. little, a much younger man than now for sure.. the clip is 8 minutes.. unfortunately, some idiot recorded over part of this day many years ago.

i am hoping to find another copy in the box..

Phizzy

It is funny to think that Fred Franz is the last "Scholar" who produced stuff for the G.B to print. he had no formal Education in the matters he was pontificating on, was not able to read N.T Greek in any great measure, and was a very strange chap. I think he was Autistic to some degree.

He certainly caused the org to take directions that have done it more harm than good, the Blood Doctrine and 1975 being the biggest load of dangerous crap he came out with.

Now the Org is floundering because they have no one coming up with ideas to keep the Org seemingly going along with Big J's "Chariot", it is all now down to re-hashing old stuff, desperate things like the overlapping Generation, and stressing we are in the last minutes of the Last Days.

Even when I was still in, I felt that real " Spiritual Food" was entirely lacking, and its got worse !

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Why do the Elders stress the importance of meeting attendance....

by Davros in

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why do the elders always stress to the rank and file members of the congregation how important meeting attendance is, as well as the importance of always paying attention to every word that's being presented from the slave?

but then, during the meeting, they rarely sit and pay attention themselves to the wonderful spiritual banquet being presented?

they always seem so busy, don't they?

Phizzy

Control yes, without doubt, because if too many drift away, the Elders themselves become redundant !

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How did Adam know what a sword was?

by phoenixrising in

so if the bible is the inspired word of god and i don't believe it is by any stretch, how did adam when he was kicked out of the garden of eden know what a spinning sword was?

did adam invent swords?

more bible non sense garbage.

Phizzy

The oldest sword ever found is about 3300 B.C.

No flood,even a local one, happened at the time the Bible places the Flood of the Noah Story.

The Bible is over 90% fiction.

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WTB&TS And The Lawyers They Employ.

by smiddy3 in

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i have been thinking about the legal departments that look after the wts interests around the world.i can`t believe these legal eagles offer their services on a voluntary basis like the r&f do.and i don`t believe their services would come cheap.. as an organization the size of jw.org and its offshoots of companys and interests around the world ,the cost of keeping them gainfully employed must amount to a considerable sum of money.. especially the law suits against them with child abuse court cases that arise on a regular basis ,and the government inquiry`s into the jw religion that is happening in different countries now.. all paid for by the voluntary contributions that come from the r&f for the worldwide preaching work .. contributions to pay for the wt organization`s legal department to defend themselves in court ?.

did jesus and the apostles pay lawyers to defend them in a court of law with funds donated by their supporters ?.

Phizzy

They have just lost a case they fought all the way to the Supreme Court in Sweden. They were charged under a Swedish Law for showing Videos that were harmful to children. They Lost ! Ha Ha, those videos are as harmful as the old pictures in the Books showing people dying at Armageddon were to us.

More donation $$$ and Kroner down the drain.

Should they show those Videos anywhere now that children are in attendance ? NO !

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When Was The First Time You Ever Got Drunk?

by 1234 in

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i was 20 years old and at bethel for just a couple of months.

i was really depressed, as i was finding out what bethel was really all about.

i drank a whole bottle of cold duck, after a long hot subway ride back to brooklyn.

Phizzy

Yea, good advice, but as my Bro. in Law says, about my drinking and smoking , " Well,.... at least he will die happy". !!!

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I knew Abraham Lincoln

by road to nowhere in

my great granddad met abraham lincoln when he was a boy.

when i was a kid i met him, he was 100+.

so according to the generation teaching i knew lincoln.

Phizzy

J.W Doctrine was pretty wacky when I was a kid, in the 50's and 60's, but now it is beyond laughable.

The J.W willy org as I call it, has painted itself in to a corner with their slavish hanging on to the thoroughly discredited 1914 nonsense.

Of course, if they abandon, or even modify slightly the 1914 garbage, they have no mandate, they were not chosen in 1919 by Jesus, and that makes them Self Appointed Charlatans.

Perhaps I could suggest a way, that I have thought of, that they could extend the claim that we are living in " The Last Days", but I will not do so, they may take up my idea !

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Possibly new vaccine can be ready by September this year

by newsheep in

just saw this on the news tonight.

england has come up with a covid vaccine at the oxford university.

india wants to start using it in a couple of months.

Phizzy

The other hopeful new treatment may well come from the Llama/ Alpaca group of animals. They have been proven to develop Nano antibodies, tiny ones, that act against the Virus, and earlier iterations of it. This will probably have to be administered as a method of fighting against the disease, not a prophylactic, and I guess will involve the transfusion of Blood, so J.W's will die through lack of it.

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When Was The First Time You Ever Got Drunk?

by 1234 in

jw
friends

i was 20 years old and at bethel for just a couple of months.

i was really depressed, as i was finding out what bethel was really all about.

i drank a whole bottle of cold duck, after a long hot subway ride back to brooklyn.

Phizzy

I really cannot remember the first time, but it was without doubt in my early Teens,and an embarrassing number of times subsequently. The funny one I remember was when we were staying at a friends Apartment, just the wife and I , we had no kids then, and the guy whose Flat it was ended the evening of long drinking by us sharing a bottle of fine Whisky.

In the morning, I visited the Bathroom/Toilet, as you do, still thoroughly pissed, and forgot the door SLID, I tried to pull it open, in the process managed to pull the handle off, and fell back in to the Bath, laughing like an idiot !

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Infidelity amongst JWs

by YellowLab in

does there seem to be a higher incidence of infidelity amongst the jws?.

my brother, who is an active jw and ministerial servant, has an elder friend who was recently disfellowshipped for having an affair with another sister in the hall.

it turns out this sister was divorced a few years earlier from a "worldly" man who had an affair on her.

Phizzy

From my personal experience, I have a feeling Infidelity may be a bit higher than other religions among JW's, and possibly a bit higher than among the general public ??

I knew of many cases in our own Congo. and surrounding ones. One big case happened in a close by Congo, actual wife swapping involving M.S's as well as ordinary JW's.

I was "offered it on a plate" at least three or four times, two were just horny sisters wanting me to shag them, maybe nothing more, one I got dangerously close to actually going ahead, it was flirting that led eventually to me being infatuated, but never did I weaken, I am so glad, to have sacrificed my marriage would have been the worst decision of my life. And I learned in the end that the girl I was infatuated with was an utter witch, and simply wanted out from her marriage. She engineered a Divorce, quite how I am not sure, her husband was a nice guy, before that had gone through she latched on to a JW guy about 10 years younger than her, and eventually married him.

One Elder said to me that " we have had every sin in our Congregation, except Murder". True for most Congos. I guess.