Posts by Phizzy

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Do you still debate with JWs?

by punkofnice in

i was talking to an ex-jw.

not been out as long as i have.. cut a long story short, i came to realise that i can no longer be bothered to debate jws if (on the rare occasion), i have encountered them.. i think that because i am somewhere circling a nihilistic atheist it seems pointless.

i just don't have the energy because i rarely even think about jw related garbage.

Phizzy

I never used to approach them at Carts and things before Covid, and of course they are told by the Cong. not to call on me, so I would not get the chance to discuss things in person.

Even on-line, I now leave it to others, I cannot be arsed. I found in the early days of leaving when I did debate with them , that the only effective way was to get them to tell ME what they found doubtful about the Org. then I would stick to talking about that one aspect, and direct them to JWFacts or similar. Probably a waste of time doing that I reckon.

My thinking now is that if anyone is determined and blinded enough to stay in, I will not be able to help them. I have offered help and encouragement to a number who upon waking up have asked me for advice, which was a pleasure, I know how valuable it was for me when I first left to get good advice.

Good to hear from you Punkie ! Keep on Rockin' !!

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Degree of Effectiveness of JW Letter Writing Form of Witnessing

by Disillusioned JW in

a newspaper article quotes a jw as saying "every (letter) i put in the mailbox, i feel, 'ah, this could reach somebody.

'" the article also quotes her as saying "we are accomplishing even more now than we were door-to-door because this way everybody in the house gets a chance to pick up that letter and respond to it.

it just feels good.

Phizzy

I think many people will look at those Letters as creepy and rude. Claiming to be someone's "neighbour" when the address of the sender is NOWHERE near you is obviously a Sales Ploy and is deceitful.

I would doubt there ever will be any notable success, perhaps not even any measurable success, for the JW's with this waste of time effort and cash, but the Org does NOT care.

The Org evidently does not want new recruits, it wants to shrink to a core of loyal JW's, but it wants to keep the present members busy so they don't start to drift away. Anything that makes them feel as though they are doing something worthwhile.

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''Humorous Preaching'' coming near you soon

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

''what is jehovah's witness' favorite band?''.

i give up!

what is jehovah's witness favorite band?.

Phizzy

My local drug dealer started dressing up as a Jehovah's Witness so he wouldn't arouse suspicion.

He got arrested after the police saw people actually letting him in.

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Watchtower takes parody poster to court.

by Lost in the fog in

another youtube presenter falls foul of the wt society's legal team.

the watch tower copyright lawsuit targets creator of "dubtown" lego animations.

https://www.toptutorials.co.uk/watch-tower-copyright-lawsuit-targets-creator-of-dubtown-lego-animations-torrentfreak/.

Phizzy

This sort of pathetic, humourless legal move by the Org could add to the Cognitive Dissonance of active J.W's.

Deep down a JW may wonder: " Why do they want to hide what we are ? ". As usual, such people will shove thoughts like that to the back of their mind, but that is the place where they fester and grow , until they actually inflict a kind of pain, and the JW will have to act upon those feelings.

I know, that is what happened to me.

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With a whimper, not a bang

by JeffT in

jw
friends

the thread about old timers got me thinking about trends i see with the watchtower.

i've changed my opinion about where the organization stands.

when i joined the religion in 1973 it was dynamic, even the small congregation i attended sent out three or four pioneers.

Phizzy

" Unless it completely rebuilds itself the Watchtower will die of boredom." I think this is so very true.

Also relevance to people's lives is an issue, once a JW starts to ease off from the Mouse in a Wheel life that the Org demands of its adherents, she or he realises that the Org has little relevance to their day to day life, couple that with the incredible boredom of the Meetings, what is needed at that point is some sort of trigger, and they will be off.

Another thing that is even more of a problem for those who want to keep the org going is that the young ones have in the main seen through it, and the older ones are dying off, and yet the Org now has no real way to attract new recruits.

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Ah, Jonah. 3 day air supply explained ?Whale sharks gulp down air to float vertically while feeding

by waton in

here from new scientist magazine: .

whale sharks gulp down air to float vertically while feeding.

life 12 may 2021by christa lesté-lasserre.

Phizzy

Another example of Gospel writers using a Motif from the O.T perhaps ? I doubt Jesus spoke those words and it was remembered and passed down to the Gospel writer.

Our great Poster Leolaia has a Post, or probably more than one, of the many Motifs used by the Gospel writers that come form the O.T.

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400 Rockets Hit Israel

by minimus in

jw
friends

israel retaliated and some are accusing israel of an “act of terrorism”.

evidently these rockets are trying to get to tel aviv but the dome is getting overwhelmed.. i wonder if the usa and other nations will come to israel’s defense..

Phizzy

Hamas will claim their god wants them to eradicate Israel as a Nation State, equally as wrong-headed.

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400 Rockets Hit Israel

by minimus in

jw
friends

israel retaliated and some are accusing israel of an “act of terrorism”.

evidently these rockets are trying to get to tel aviv but the dome is getting overwhelmed.. i wonder if the usa and other nations will come to israel’s defense..