Posts by Phizzy

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Zoom meetings, how long ?

by Phizzy in

i was wondering two things, 1: how long in total are the zoom meetings, i presume the sunday one is the longest ?.

and 2: if you use zoom for free, the session only lasts 40 minutes, so do they have an intermission so people can log back in, or are all jw's expected to pay for the "privilege" ?.

Phizzy

" With zoom, most of the socialising is gone."

Yes, especially when the JW ladies used to huddle in a group, and gossip, they will have to do that On-line now only, and the other "huddle", two or three Elders talking about who to get in the back Room next etc, again on line only. The JW ladies seem more Bitchy on Social Media than at the K.H, because they cannot be overheard, they forget I can see what they are saying about each other ! Who has blocked who LOL. But again, a different, and more destructive thing for their relationships.

And just the normal Social chit chat is gone. An XJW friend of mine has always, since he left, called it "The JW Social Club", he always said " Most don't believe it all, they just go for the Social side", and he is right, with that gone, another nail in the JW Org coffin !

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Zoom meetings, how long ?

by Phizzy in

i was wondering two things, 1: how long in total are the zoom meetings, i presume the sunday one is the longest ?.

and 2: if you use zoom for free, the session only lasts 40 minutes, so do they have an intermission so people can log back in, or are all jw's expected to pay for the "privilege" ?.

Phizzy

I was wondering two things, 1: How long in total are the Zoom meetings, I presume the Sunday one is the longest ?

And 2: If you use Zoom for free, the session only lasts 40 minutes, so do they have an intermission so people can log back in, or are all JW's expected to pay for the "privilege" ?

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What was Jesus "anointed" as?

by Doug Mason in

it is illogical to say that “jesus was anointed as christ”.

that’s like saying that “jesus was anointed as anointed”.

the question that needs to be asked is: “what was jesus anointed as?”.

Phizzy

Thank you Doug, I have Downloaded the Book, and will read it at a later time, I still have a pile of books to read.

Having glanced at the Contents, it makes me realise what a Mammoth Task you have set yourself, with your Study of the 2nd. Temple period. You have my admiration, and thanks, for writing in a way that condenses the information in an easy to read and assimilate way !

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Comments on a range of topics

by Doug Mason in

hi,.

recent brief comments i made over a range of subjects.. https://jwstudies.com/doug_s_answers_at_quora__1_.pdf .

doug.

Phizzy

Good answers Doug, you are an Educationist ! A very good one ! You have helped me no end. Many thanks.

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Galaxies and 49000 years

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

now today this is of course a non-issue.

the wt has embraced the big bang/old earth etc just not evolution.

in fact the creator book has some decent info.. however i have a good copy of the 1958 paradise book.

Phizzy

I can see the problem for JW Org in accepting Evolution by Natural Selection as what it is, firmly established Truth. But, I can also think of ways they can spin the Adam and Eve story, I will not outline them here ! I do not want to help them along in their nonsense ! ( The Bible Chronology may seem insurmountable, but that is included in my way of dealing with the thing.)

The fact that they are so 19th Century about this, works against them to a huge degree. My own son when about 12 years old, he had been born in of course, thought to himself that what David Attenborough was telling him on the T.V was Truth, and that the JW thing was not. He never became a JW, and was the first mover in getting us to Wake up ! What an Achilles Heel this is for JW's ! There own kids educating them !

Long may the JW Org stick with their 19th Century nonsense of the Bible being literal truth, and teaching that the Bible stories should be taken literally . It only takes a word or two from someone you love and trust, who knows reality, to start you on the Road To Freedom.

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What was Jesus "anointed" as?

by Doug Mason in

it is illogical to say that “jesus was anointed as christ”.

that’s like saying that “jesus was anointed as anointed”.

the question that needs to be asked is: “what was jesus anointed as?”.

Phizzy

Good Post as usual Doug !

And this puts a new viewpoint on the way JW's view it, and you are absolutely right ! It puts further in to discredit the JW concept of a Paradise Earth, this Jesus Messiah would deal with the Evil Spirit Forces, and Heaven would of course then be free of them, the casting down of the Devil etc in Revelation, but this would cause in theory more trouble on Earth, for 1000 years.

But Heaven would be the ultimate Goal of Christians.

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An End of an EraJehovah’s Witnesses cancel in-person conventions worldwide, will stream online in 100 languagesAn End of an EraJehovah’s Witnesses cancel in-person conventions worldwide, will stream online in 100 languages

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

jehovah’s witnesses cancel in-person conventions worldwide, will stream online in 100 languages.

by: rocky nash.

posted: jul 9, 2020 / 10:23 pm pdt / updated: jul 19, 2020 / 11:22 am pdt.

Phizzy

I am not sure if they have finally decided to make the on line thing permanent, or left the way open for it to go back to real live Conventions at a later date, if they have not done so, I am sure they will, in the near future , make that decision.

The Conventions, some in expensive Venues, cannot be the money spinners they were, and probably they will make the correct assumption that Donations will increase a little, just after each on line one, as JW Drones show their appreciation for " The best Convention ever ! and all the wonderful Spiritual Food !" LOL, so they will not be out of pocket by any means.

It always has been, and is now more so, ALL ABOUT THE $$$ !!

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Galaxies and 49000 years

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

now today this is of course a non-issue.

the wt has embraced the big bang/old earth etc just not evolution.

in fact the creator book has some decent info.. however i have a good copy of the 1958 paradise book.

Phizzy

With all the Mountain of Evidence supporting Evolution by Natural Selection, I think the Borg will have to follow slightly more sensible Christian Sects who acknowledge the truth of it, but incorporate that in to their Faith.

As to the Creation of the Universe they will get away with maintaining that there was a Creator for as long as they exist, I guess.

The point they miss is this, there is simply NO connection with such a Creator, if there was one, and there god Jehovah, NONE.

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I was wondering how this would play out in JW land.

by wolverines in

i have a niece who is trying to get pregnant.

she was telling me her husband had to go to a room with porn in it and masturbate into a cup to get tested.

i never thought of this before but but how would a jw handle this.

Phizzy

I once asked an Elder why masturbation wasn't a DFing offence, he replied " because they would have to get rid of all the Bethel Boys, biggest bunch of wankers I know" . Great guy in many ways, but still in.

Another one of his that shocked me at the time was " you can always tell when... (his youngest daughter)... has a new boyfriend, she doesn't smell so much of Piss".

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Thoughts on Sunning and blood Doctrines.

by Phizzy in

i have a couple of thoughts on the blood and shunning doctrines, both of which have been covered well before.

here, and on j.w facts.com and elsewhere.. but i would like to point out the following, the only scriptures they can use in reality for their blood doctrine are the verses from acts chapter 15. o.t verse are really out of the question, and dishonest to use on their part, as they do not follow most of the injunctions in there!.

the context of acts 15 is a council of the apostles and others in the jerusalem congregation, to decide what they should ask of gentile christians in the way of behaviours and practices etc, as jewish christians were demanding they comply with the mosaic law, or were, at the very least offended if they did not.

Phizzy

Yes Rub, "Sunning" was a Typo, and Threads never go the way you think they will, I really wanted to major on the Shunning thing, more than the Blood teaching.

I think we need to shout far and wide about how Evil Shunning is, and, most importantly I think this now has become the Org's Achilles Heel.

Shunning takes away the Human Rights of those Shunned, of the JW family of the one being Shunned, and of their JW "friends". But more, it takes away the Human Rights of those who have faded from the Org. Takes away those Rights from Ex JW's !

How dare the Org impose this Evil upon non members !

It is indefensible from Scripture, as discussed, but Human Rights should ALWAYS trump Religious Practice, we rightly condemn Female Genital Mutilation, because the Human Rights of the child involved trump the filthy religious practice.

Let us speak about Shunning until it is done away with by the Org. Think how power will be removed from them ! Yes, if you mess up, you can still be DF'd for Religious reasons, but the fear of Shunning is what stops a Host of J.W's from fading away, especially the young.

Get Campaigning Folks ! on Social Media and anywhere you can.