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  2nd Isaiah 49:6

  by peacefulpete in

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  6 and he said, it is too small a thing that thou shouldest be servant to me to raise up the sons of jacob, and to bring back the netzurei yisroel (preserved of israel,); i will also give thee for ohr goyim, that thou mayest be my yeshuah unto the ketzeh ha’aretz.. 2nd isaiah, actually an anonymous prophet at the time of cyrus, did his best to inspire and hearten his fellow countrymen.

  many judahites had lost hope and even lost faith.

  the explanations offered by previous prophets, namely that their own sins had resulted in their situation, were not adequate nor convincing.

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  Phizzy

  Thanks for bringing back to the top some of your very erudite and educational Threads P.P.

  I am enjoying reading them again, and for people they are new to, they must be a Revelation !
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  Movies about JWs

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have seen many movies or shows that make a passing reference to jehovah's witnesses but very few dwell on jws.

  some like a deadly devotion episode i saw once tells a true story but the portal of jws is all wrong.

  by movies i am not talking of documentaries.

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  Phizzy

  I just wonder if some of the excellent Novels that some XJW's have written may attract a movie maker one day soon, like the ones by Jodie Chapman and Ali Miller.

  Ali's latest does not feature J.W's at all, Jodie's 1st two did, I'm rather hoping that like Ali, she gets away from using the J.W org. as a backdrop, I'm sure her future novels will be even better if she does.

  The problem for Movie makers like Daniel who made "Apostasy" is conveying how weird it is to be in the Bubble of the Org. he did a good job though, I heard the audience gasp and say "Disgusting" at what the Elders did to the heroine and her mum. And they laughed at other nonsense, like "Armageddon is coming soon" or something similar.

  I wonder how J.W's felt being in a Cinema Audience watching, and hearing what the general Public think of their crazy Religion !
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  The fading of a well known American religion. Could this happen someday to Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  new york times 9/5/24.

  " there are only two shakers left.

  they've still got utopia in their sites.. "by jordan kisner.

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  Phizzy

  One day the last J.W will look sadly out of the window of their Care Home and think " I thought the New System would be here by now".
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  Would you be able to survive a three day Assembly?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the last assembly i attended was over 10 years ago.

  the monotone speakers, boring talks, uncomfortable seats, long prayers and nodding off after the lunch break did me in.

  i survived the morning sessions, but the afternoon sessions were brutal.

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  Phizzy

  When I was just waking up, mid-2007, I decided not to go to the three day bum-number and bore fest.

  My wife was happy, she had hated them for years. So the 2006 one was our last.

  We left,for good, a few months later.

  So, for 17 years I have been convinced I would not survive a three day J.W Convention/Assembly !

  I do not know how PIMOS do it, attend the whole thing. Even back then, many PIMOS used to only turn up for the weekend days, or just the Sunday. One guy, quite a character, used to turn up for a while some days, and then disappear. He always went and did his Work first ! he had a Cleaning Company.

  One lovely girl told me years later, she always used to go down the local cafe, have a coffee, and a smoke. Then go for a walk, each day.

  When we missed that first one NOBODY NOTICED ! They just assumed we were there ! We had many of our JW family, and also members of our Congregation present there of course.

  Maybe something for PIMOS to think about !
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  Where's Simon?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  anyone heard from him?

  he hasn't been active for over a week.

  probably on holiday but would be nice to know everything's okay 🤔 .

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  Phizzy

  "The report of my death was an exaggeration". Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain).
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  "We're in the last days!"

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not just jw's, but countless others (evangelicals etc.

  ) are claiming that we're in the "last days.".

  but........bible students/jw's have been spouting this fake message since the 19th century!!!!!!.

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  Phizzy

  Old Phizzy, as DOC says, is very aware of his mortality, but being an atheist, I am not bothered by the thought of it, as theists, and J.W's are strangely, they seem to fear death.

  O.K, I'm hoping I have a few more years left perhaps, and as "only the good die young" I should make it to 120, being such a wicked old bastard.

  What a way to live your life though ! as J.W's do ! in fear of Armageddon, afraid to leave the Org. in case they "do not make it", so living a life that is not their own, until they die. All for nothing.

  I will die, one day, the World will go on, as usual, but the J.W Org. will wither and die, not so very long after I am Pushing up the Daisies.

  These are indeed my Last Days, but I enjoy every one of them, I do what I bloody well like, and like what I bloody well do !

  I was never truly happy, in a deep lasting way, ever in my life, until I left the Org. and its constant Doom and Gloom, with the Carrot on a Stick of some fanciful deluded idea of "Paradise".
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  First Church Service at 55 years Old

  by SouthCentral in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to a christening at a church today, a black church.

  it was an incredible experience!!

  women were an active part of the service, and the people were very welcoming.

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  Phizzy

  My wife and me went to a number of Services in different denomination Churches when we first left, we were invited for a number of reasons by friends who attended those Churches.

  By that time we were both atheists, and went out of respect for friends. It was noteworthy to us that a friendly welcome was given to us, though strangers, in each, and it seemed genuine and warm, whereas in a J.W K.H there was a forced friendliness and a wariness, "Who are these "worldly people" ? ".

  One independent Church we went to, twice, the building had been a traditional Church of England Parish Church, but had been taken over by a group of local Christians, and was run by a wonderful guy, who was a great speaker. The content of his "Sermons" was always about practical Christian living, how we could help each other, AND the wider community, even people in need overseas.

  The welcome there was the warmest we had received. It was a vibrant community of Christians, mostly families, nobody dressed up as we J.W's were expected to do back then, I was the only guy wearing a Tie ! even the Preacher had an open necked shirt, the older kids all sat together.

  If we had been of a mind to join a Church, that would have been our choice. I even liked the Christian Band that sung and played, what an Atmos !

  This is what the Org. seems to be aiming for, but what they will never be able to do is fake sincerity.
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  Where Adam and Eve Vegan/Vegetarian?

  by KerryKing in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jws seem to firmly believe that before the flood mankind eas vegan or at least vegetarian.. however, in gen 1:24,25 it says that god created livestock (domestic animals) and beasts of the eart (wild beasts).. why would adam and eve need livestock if they were vegan and naked?

  wouldn't need wool or hide for clothing, nor meat for food.

  possibly for dairy products only?

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  Phizzy

  Of more interest to me is the answer to the question " Is a Vegan Burger made up of whole Vegans ? ".
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  "We're in the last days!"

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not just jw's, but countless others (evangelicals etc.

  ) are claiming that we're in the "last days.".

  but........bible students/jw's have been spouting this fake message since the 19th century!!!!!!.

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  Phizzy

  Every Bible Writer maintained his predictions would be fulfilled shortly after the time he wrote his words. They were not.

  There are no Bible predictions to be fulfilled, those predictions have already failed.

  There are no "last days " , unless mankind does not solve the Climate Crisis.
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  Cedar Point Ohio 🙄🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

  by xaminewt in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i started doubting the organization when i was 15. i spent the next 12 years doing in-depth research involving numerous emails with bible scholars and scientists.

  i finally left the organisation 3 years ago.

  technically i was never actually a jw as i was never baptised, so i’m not being shunned.

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  Phizzy

  I rejected the Cedar Point Ohio nonsense, when I was in my late teens , in the late 1960's.

  I simply could not believe that a Bible Prophecy would be fulfilled in Rutherford and a few followers holding some small Convention, unnoticed by the World.

  Sadly I went no further, and did not question properly the 1914 thing until many decades later, I do remember my mother telling me about the Ray Franz thing, 1981 ? and saying "They are saying they do not believe in 1914 !". I recall thinking at the time, "I'm not sure I do either", but still went no further then.

  It was years later that I sat down and thought " I'll read the Book of Daniel today, as though I've never read it before, and without W.T. "Spectacles" on ", of course from then on the 1914 thing was blown out of the water, entirely, I researched some more, and shortly after walked away for good. The whole House of Cards that is their unique teachings fell down, just using the Bible,and what it REALLY said !

  I was a Lover of Truth, and could no longer associate with a "religion" which taught Lies.