i've always suspected this was the wt society's view when i was in the jehovah's witness organization - but never knew the head of the writing committee karl adams had written a letter to nathan knorr ( then wt president ) recommending a change regarding reporting field service time as it wrongly emphasized jw members being seen as mainly being approved due to field service statistics - instead of emphasizing christian qualities of love, kindness, peace, etc.. karl adams had been personally handpicked by nathan knorr to be the head of the writing department.
in 1971 he wrote a letter to knorr which he wanted shared with the entire governing body as well .
i'll share the main parts of that letter.. on pg.
I pioneered in my teenage years, about the time when it was 100 hours a month. I could never quite do it and all I ever thought about was how to get my time in! I cringe at it now. I hate having to count time, I think it's pointless. And yes... where's the love in it??
Btw.. CoC built the coffin for me... CF drove the nails in...
some of you were really nice.
some of you were really mean to me, and at this point in my life i can't handle such meanness.
i thought this would be my one place to truly express my feelings without too much mocking or insults from people who i thought were nicer, but i was wrong.
My dear, you are doing the right thing. Take a little breather and get yourself together till you feel in a happier place. There are lots of people on here who are kind and thoughtful, (many more than are unkind). Don't leave on account of the few. I'm glad you are going to get some help in the real world, it'll be much, much better for you! Take care. :)
were you a born-in or became one as an adult?
how long were you in for?
what made you realise it was all wrong?
I think that's the key isn't it? Not to make our other half choose, because it won't work. To understand that each person has the right to choose what they want to believe in even if we can't believe ourselves. But it's difficult! You so want them to see it the same way!!
.......... trust your mind !
" yes, they actually said this in a wt study article entitled, " do not look at the things behind " .
i swear the wt society writers and leaders are getting even more controlling and manipulative !
The 'Children' book came out in the 40's that practically told them they shouldn't even marry! Because the 'end' was too close.... I think most JWs know by now that taking any notice of this kind of thing is stupid... perhaps more are 'waking up' gradually. I wonder how many actually believe that Armageddon is 'just round the corner'?
were you a born-in or became one as an adult?
how long were you in for?
what made you realise it was all wrong?
I envy you being able to get out together FA and JR :)
indeed thats just what witnesses are.
everyone hates them.
is there any other group in "christendom "that are hated as much as these.?
I agree with Tenyearsafter. As a JW you are discouraged from looking into your own religion. I was in for the whole of my 50 years believing everything I was told. After all it's from God isn't it? Then I found out that it wasn't...
Why have you come here? Do you think you can convert all of us? I could tell you JW teachings inside out.. I can tell you all about the way they get to 1914 without using the reasoning book or anything else. I've spent since the age of 5 when I learnt to read studying JW literature from the 'Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained' book and everything else since... hundreds of Watchtower studies, book studies in all the prophecy books, Babylon the Great has Fallen, Revelation Climax. Never missed a single District Assembly (except one when I was in hospital). Brought up my kids to believe it all. Then I found out the truth.
I'm not the only one here in this position... so please don't come here and tell us what JWs believe..... WE KNOW!!!
check it out:.
http://stayawake-standfirm.blogspot.com/2011/04/watchtower-society-has-never-lied.html.
standfirms disclaimer is that the definition of a lie is: "to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive"-emphasis added.. of course, other definitions of lie include: .
They said Leviathan was a locomotive (Finished Mystery)
were you a born-in or became one as an adult?
how long were you in for?
what made you realise it was all wrong?
BoC.. sounds very similar to me (except my dad was in). Let's plant our seeds of doubt. In some ways it's quite cool when everyone thinks you're 'one of them' and you know inside you're not. Bit like a spy I suppose.. :/
.......... trust your mind !
" yes, they actually said this in a wt study article entitled, " do not look at the things behind " .
i swear the wt society writers and leaders are getting even more controlling and manipulative !
You're right yourmomma.. and by their own words they've said it.. I printed off the Awake 8/22 1978 article on propaganda.. they know exactly what it is!!
were you a born-in or became one as an adult?
how long were you in for?
what made you realise it was all wrong?
Were you a born-in or became one as an adult? How long were you in for? What made you realise it was all wrong? Have you stayed in because of family? Are you fading or have you completely gone? Just out of interest.. ;)
