They had the opportunity in the 1970's when Carl Jonson sent them his treatise over 607BCE and asking for change. They ignored it and df'ed him and anyone else who agreed with him, icluding one of their own GB members (Ray Franz). I can't see it ever happening.
tornapart
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Rewriting J. Witness mistakes.
by edmond dantes inif the governing body could turn back time and do a rewrite or change their past teachings what would be their top priority ?.
would they have to eliminate everything and start again?.
any one want to tell them what to shred before forensics arrive?.
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Why I Hate Religion
by Christ Alone ini know this is a few months old.
but i think it's profound to people that still think like the wt trained them to think.
even after coming out of the wt, they still feel that all christians believe that they alone have the true religion or denomination.
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tornapart
Is this to say all those that go to church are not true christians?
Not ALL who go to church are true christians but obviously some are. It is the organisations themselves that are damaging.
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Why I Hate Religion
by Christ Alone ini know this is a few months old.
but i think it's profound to people that still think like the wt trained them to think.
even after coming out of the wt, they still feel that all christians believe that they alone have the true religion or denomination.
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tornapart
Organised 'christianity' is NOT true christianity. They are not teaching Christ, they are teaching doctirnes of men and assuming power with everything bad that goes with it. Jesus condemned the Pharisees for this. A true christian follows Jesus and is not a part of any man made religion.
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CELEBRATE WITH ME!!!
by Notreadytorun inok so if you look at my membership and post history im very much a new member here, but have been researching things for some months on and off, so i have not made any sudden decisions..... i have been reading heaps of reasoning here as to why many of you have left jws, particularly those of you who have left for reasons of conscience.
i have just read crisis of conscience, which has become the proverbial "nail in the coffin" for me.. for many reasons i am no longer one of jehovahs witnesses in my heart, but i still identify myself as a christian, and will continue to uphold bible principles in my life.
the two big realisations for me is that: one: i do not have to compromise my bible trained conscience to make this differentiation, and it does not make me a true apostate, although loyal jws would label me that.
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tornapart
Hi Notreadytorun, I'm right where you atm. It's not esy is it? For me it is a complete balancing act. Hang in there the best way you know how.
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Why I Hate Religion
by Christ Alone ini know this is a few months old.
but i think it's profound to people that still think like the wt trained them to think.
even after coming out of the wt, they still feel that all christians believe that they alone have the true religion or denomination.
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tornapart
A couple of nice websites for ex JWs who are still believers in Christ: jwstruggle.com and 21st-century-christians.org
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In love with a JW...
by CuriousUK inapologies if this has been discussed before, or is in the wrong forum, but i could really do with some advice.
two years ago i met the love of my life; someone i regard as my soulmate.
he is an active jw and i am a practising church of england person.
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tornapart
Curious.. I think it is a very good idea to get him to read Crisis of Conscience. I've been a JW from birth and am now in my 50's. It had an incredible and lasting effect on me. If he reads it I am fairly sure it will affect him. If he is unwilling to at least read it then maybe he is not worth it. If he does it could make all the difference.
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tornapart
Edmund Blackadder : "You have absolutely no idea what irony is, have you Baldrick?"
Baldrick: "Yes I have. It's just like steely and goldy, 'cept it's made of iron"
(Blackadder one of the best British sitcoms) :)
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What part of "TRUE" needs "adjustment"?
by Terry inlet us conduct a thought experiment!.
let's say you work for a huge investment firm run by a brilliant ceo who has a perfect track record for business decisions.. the ceo sends e-mails, text messages and makes phone calls from his remote island hideaway heaven island.. none of the employees ever actually see him.
they rely on his hand-picked leaders sitting in the big office on the top floor of the corporate building.. these leaders pass along the transmitted instructions as conduits.. what would ever destroy confidence in these hand-picked leaders as competent and honest brokers?
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tornapart
You always hit the nail on the head Terry! Truth cannot ever be changed.
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Angry woman returns "My Book of bible stories"...Too violent for her Children? Is this true?
by Witness 007 inmy mum gave a worldly ladies kids a "bible stories" book as a gift, the woman was pleased...2 weeks later the angry woman returned the book claiming it was too violent and upsetting for her kids.
even though i was brought up on that book, looking at it now with the drownings at the flood, jesus pinned to a post, a chapter with a picture of a guy on the ground with a nail thru his temple i have to say......it is too violent and upsetting for kids...just in pictures alone!
what do you think?.
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tornapart
When I was a kid we used to have the orange 'Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained'. There were a lot of pictures depicting violence in there and I used to be fascinated in a morbid kind of way. It didn't really harm me and I've grown to be a very gentle person. I think children are faced with seeing violence all the time especially on tv (like the news). My own children grew up with the My Book of Bible Stories and it hasn't harmed them either. Also this book needn't be given to very small children, my little granddaughter (being brought up as JW) has been bought a 'wordly' bible story book by her parents, very beautiful, very simple and entirely suitable for her toddler years.
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If you've left JWs for Christ - will the end still come?
by flamegrilled insomething i don't see supported much on jwn is the notion that the end of this system is indeed coming, even if later than wts has predicted over the years.. now for those that have left and become complete non-believers (in the bible) that is understandable.
you guys are welcome to comment of course, but i'm far more interested in some feedback from the people who have left jws and pursued a christian course.
are you still convinced that there will be a war of armaggedon or do you now interpret the scriptures a different way?.
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tornapart
I believe most of what Jesus said in Matt 24 and Luke 21 as having 1st century fulfillment and most of Revelation as having future fulfillment. I still believe in an 'Armageddon', a resurrection at the end of a 1,000 years (but am beginning to go towards that 1,000 years as not literal) and the final destruction of Satan. Whether it comes in my time or not I am not concerned. This is God's time plan and even Jesus didn't know the dates when he was on earth and neither did the angels. All that matters to me is learning as much as I can now and being as a good a christian as I can.