further to my post the other day re: jw study who had a conversation with me on facebook and started questioning his beliefs, he has now contacted me back....will post the quotes underneath.. his response:.
yes i did tell some brothers how confused i was about the information you sent me, they said does it matter where charles russel is burried, i aggree its abou god not man, and as for peadophillia in past yes it did happen in congregations, but that happens everywhere and they said they did not promote it obviously and that people leave when they done that dark act, they said that the police have been employed in past, there are no more cases i now of, again i dont blame god for this he will sort them out...havent been for a while now , at the end of the day there is lots of stuff on net and as long as i am doing it whole from my heart no one judges me but god, i have so many beautifulll friends in the truth, i believe jehova does have a body of people in the world , you do what you will and all the best i just want to do well and all the religions are in wars and do what they want , i am up for 1 god 1 tounge and not doin waht the rest proclaim to do and be there own gods.... its just that all this came out of nowhere , our chats and was damaging to god , i have no idea what you believe in but your messin with fire if you ask me , dont get lost in apostasy and youtube as its a minefield of miss trust.
thats my view, i hardly know you well at all and you keep contacting me asking what they say etc , i too tired to feel lowe cos you dont really say anything good about god you just seem to want to deter me, not once have you mentioned love peace , jesus , just on about me being mislead, you catch my drift, dont mean to come across rude as i am a happy man , but i get your point how you feel and i have always known fun love great friendships and a relation ship with yaweh,jehova etc so shall we just talk footy and world as its clear you can damage my spiritual health as we not talking about good stuff just jw people are mislead when we should be in union regarding the coming of jesus famines wars, disease im gagging for it to come.. my response:.
I think what you have done is pulled the rug out from underneath him. He's completely shaken by everything you have told him. I know that feeling well as it happened to me. However I was ready for it. He had something that gave him happiness and now it's been taken away from him He's suffering from cognitive dissonance, a very uncomfortable feeling. He probably knows everything you say is true but doesn't want to believe it. The result is a feeling of anxiety and depression.
Can you give him something positive for him to cling to? He obviously loves God, he loves Christ. Show him he doesn't need to lose that, he can still draw close to them without an organisation. You've given him all the negative stuff, now give him something positive and upbuilding. He thought he'd found something wonderful, now he's lost it.
in the typical do as we say , not as we do type mentality - the wt society puts forth in this current wt study article ( jw's only wt ) - that it's not " advisable " or " reasonable " for jehovah's witnesses to seek entering their own business ventures , or further themselves by getting a college education, or even have a career - due to the imminent coming of the alleged " end of the system " or alleged " paradise " .
the guilt and control used here is ridiculous.
in the article titled , " why put jehovah's service first ?
I've always hated reading this kind of stuff even before I 'woke up'. Too many R&F JWs allow themselves to be controlled by this kind of thing. They allow themselves to be guilt tripped, end up 'towing the party line' and then they end up impoverished and unable to support a family.
I've travelled all over Europe, no probs getting in and out of countries. Friendly border guards, nice smiles, luggage not looked at.
Went to US once. I felt like a criminal! I'm a middle aged white woman. They were suspiscious of me the whole time, I made a mistake, can't remember what it was and he went all through my luggage looking at me with a beady eye of suspicion. Oh yeah.. I had a stash of cocaine amongst my knickers. Extremely unfriendly. Next passport control. I felt like a bacteria under a microscope. I thought if all Americans were paranoid like this I'd never go back!!
So much for welcome to our country and hope you have a great time!
Fortunately the Americans I met during my stay were lovely and I will go back one day (if I can get past the paranoid border guards).
thinking is what separates humans successfully from other life forms in a way that allows us technology, medicine, science, social reform and progress.. thinking is a neutral term.
it is neither good nor bad.
it is like a fork which is great for eating peas and useless for eating soup.. thinking we have knowledge gives us smug satisfaction we are up to whatever task is at hand.. .
Why would anyone think I'd shun my own family? Just because I'm still 'in'. I love my family, they are very precious to me, and I'd rather be DA'ed myself than shun them.
Yes, not being allowed to eat christmas pudding etc is going to far (it's totally ridiculous). But shunning family is downright cruel.
