Posts by wallsofjericho

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Observations about last nights meeting...

by DATA-DOG in

... btw it was soooo boooorrrinnng!!!

draw close to jehovah(tm)/bookstudy:.

excruciatingly boring.

wallsofjericho

I was there too my freind... may you have the strength to endure with me! :P

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How long before they back track on the internet

by joe134cd in

i was just thinking today.

how long will it be before the watchtower back tracks on its internet bashing, and finally allows it's publishers to set up internet sites.

how long before the wt joins up with the likes of face book /twitter.

wallsofjericho

I think the question should be... how long before we find out that the bOrg is logging and tracking IP's of all JW.org and JW App users?

Elders & MS's already log into JW.org so they already no the IP's of a large amount of their elders and MS's, CO's etc.

All this internet history is certainly at least logged if not tracked. One day soon we will here about someone getting caught and DF'd for apostasy due to IP tracking.

The day will come

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Billy's Comments You Won't Hear at the 01-19-2014 WT Study (7 Shepherds, 8 Dukes)

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

16-20. we shall also have to raise up against him seven shepherds, yes, eight dukes of mankind.mic.

what is the most important thing that you can do now to prepare for any future attack on gods people?.

all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.. .

wallsofjericho

great job Billy! Blondie wil be proud :)

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i was already on my way to my second fade when i went to the wildlife photographer of the year 2012 exhibition, but this photo made me lose faith in the idea of a loving creator......(the gazelle has been injured by the mother cheetah so she can use it to train her cubs to hunt).

wallsofjericho

I always wondered why lions, tigers, etc were created with fangs to eat grass. Why all those venomous snakes, lizards, frogs, insects etc needed poison to kill plants.

I'm sure some uber-dub will say Satan caused it without considering that such a statement would put Satan equal to God with creative powers. Of course if Jehovah did it after Adam & Eve were ousted then He wan't exactly "resting" during that sabbath rest day was he?

what about sharks? Polar bears? and don't even get me started on Dinosaurs!!

EDIT - yes Simon, falcons dive at 20o/mph to catch Lilly seeds.... they spin so fast!

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Well my JW elder dad has lost his job...

by BU2B in

as a little background, my dad became a jw in 1980 i think, went to bethel, married my mom in 86' went back for another year and then i came along... he worked in the auto repair shop at bethel while he was there, and upon leaving, continued working in this field.

my whole life they have been the type of jw parents that tell you how you will never get to high school, never graduate it, never get married in this system, never have children in this system etc.. i say this to illustrate the end is just around the corner attitude they have always had, probably because they fully bought/buy into the hype at the conventions/wt articles.

my father has no plan in place for retirement, and he is physically slowing down doing such hard laborious work.

wallsofjericho

so typical for JW parents to want to move in with their children. You say they don't have a retirement plan in place? I can assure you, YOU are the retirement plan.

I couldn't count on all my fingers and toes how many JW families I know that have moved in with their children to get by in their "golden years". I've even seen a reitred couple move in with their VERY elderly parents!! they are in their early 60's and their parents are late 80's. Now they all live and the children are "caring" for their parents.... or is it the other way around?

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BOE letter: New lights new changes

by pixel in

re: adjustments to draw close to jehovah.

dear brothers:.

some changes involving our understanding of the meaning of gods name and what it re p- resents have been made to the first chapter of draw close to jehovah.

wallsofjericho

BILLY SAID:

So, to simplify what the change really means...

Jehovah's name used to mean: I am the creator of all things, and I will do whatever is needed to accomplish my purposes.

New meaning of Jehovah's name: I constantly change. I had been saying one thing, but then I completely become something else whenever my earthly prophets realize that what I'd told them to say was wrong and needs to be totally revised ASAP. And since I just told you that I change all the time, I will now change and tell you, 'I never, ever, ever, never, ever change!'"

Am I understanding this correctly?

PRECISELY !!! you got it Billy. The GB didn't tweak Jah's name because they were actually WRONG, they changed it purely to gain some sort of personal adavantage. To be able to link organizational "tacking" to Jehovah "becoming" what ever is needed at the time is strategic positioning to gain credibility.

I see more changes on the horizon, their warming the R&F up for it already

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For the many who remember "just2laws," he had a massive heart attack last night...

by AndersonsInfo in

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friends

and died at home in panama city beach, florida.

steve imhof, a bethelite in the 1970s and former very active elder who became a very vocal wt critic starting in 2002, was 65 years old when he died.

he was father to three children and two grandchildren.

wallsofjericho

I never met him, but he sounds like a wonderful man. He deserves the thoughts of us all

thanks for sharing Barb

woj

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1914 countdown card in 2014 Yearbook

by jwfacts in

the 2014 yearbook has a scan of the 1914 countdown card.

it does not say whether this was published by the watchtower or independently, so please let me know if you have any further information about it.

in typical offensive fashion, the yearbook blames the members rather than themselves for the false expectations held for 1914.. some bible students even carried a countdown card so that they could mark off each passing day.

wallsofjericho

Many felt that they would be called beyond the veil, or to heaven, on that date.

Many felt?????? tell me, who printed that card??

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Lies on the JW.org FAQ section

by EndofMysteries in

it's riddled with lies.

here are a few, "are you an american sect?

all of our teachings are based on the bible, not on the writings of some religious leader in the united states.1 thessalonians 2:13.. we follow jesus christ, not any human leader.matthew 23:8-10.. .

wallsofjericho

I spoke, for the first time in years, to two JWs this morning.

He told me that I was wrong, they do not shun ex JWs

Next time tell them that you are Disassociated and invite them in for coffee. Then you'll see them eat their words

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BIG conversation with the missus MKII. Ended well. Wish I could argue better!

by Captain Blithering in

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well, had a loooooooong conversation with the missus again after being accused of being overly critical of the borg.. .

i stated that i thought the borg was marvellous, full of really good people, (in our experience, it has been so far), but that i had difficulty with the dogmatic stance we had on certain issues that we couldn't possibly be sure about, and that if i were to vocalise any of these issues and unrepentantly not change my thinking, then i could be df'd for that, which i view as an unloving bullying tactic.

organ transplants, vaccinations, (jah will resurrect, don't worry), new understandings of the fads and generations etc... particularly the thought that only jw's will be saved.

wallsofjericho

Seriously, who are these people who say that NON-JWs will survive armageddon? That is NOT a borg teaching never has been. Most uber dubs I know sit around and mentally circle jerk themselves getting off on who IN the cancer won't survive.

I've actually heard of a CO commenting to his family that the society is seeming to take this stance lately, that "good people" may be selected from outside the organization by Jehovah and so we can't be to intolerant of others in our ministry. I heard this about 2 years ago, but haven't heard any other comments like that since