Posts by peacefulpete

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Animal Farm....

by Xandria in

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have you ever notice how the wts is like animal farm ???.

then, as usual, the sheep broke into "four legs good, two legs bad!

" and the momentary awkwardness was smoothed over.

peacefulpete

just to let you know that voting is not now acceptable. That qfr was a public misdirection

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increase the efficiency of your prayers

by peacefulpete in

according to zoroastrianism, sex was such a sacred thing that prayers uttered while copulating are 10,000 times more effective.

"oh god oh god".

btw according to authorities the jewish prohibitions against homsexuality and bestiality were spawned in persia, not for moral reasons but because the male seed was seen as wasted.

increase the efficiency of your prayers

by peacefulpete in

according to zoroastrianism, sex was such a sacred thing that prayers uttered while copulating are 10,000 times more effective.

"oh god oh god".

btw according to authorities the jewish prohibitions against homsexuality and bestiality were spawned in persia, not for moral reasons but because the male seed was seen as wasted.

Faraon..I found that jem in a book called "Mythologies Last Gods" the author cites the Zend Avesta 4:37:130(and others) translated by F.Muller. While the book as awhole has some ideas that I doubt are magority views he does a neat job with separating the E,J,P and R contributions to the OT.

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That's why they were sad-u-see

by peacefulpete in

everyone knows that the saducees differed from the pharisees over the teaching of an afterlife(resurrection).

they also didnot accept the idea of angels, demons, and miraculous healings among other things.

the question is why?

peacefulpete

Faraon.I am not sure what to add, but to say that both the bible(acts 23:8) and Josephus as well as abundant Jewish sources confirm my initial comment. One author describes their philosophy as, Humans are like a flower, blooming for a day then dies, this is our destiny. Very simple doctrine. They accepted only the written Law of Moses, the rest was seen as uninspired commemntary mixed with paganism. They were right. except for the Moses part. This information is easily found all over the web at christian and secular sites. The Jewish Encyclopedia.com is excellent. I did a search at the site for Zoroastrianism and learned that it is generally recognized that the Jews aquired these ideas from the Persians and Babylonians. I hope this helps. Hooberus, the angel references are not part of the Law as such so must have been viewed as priestly elaboration or late additions, I do not have a better answer.

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That's why they were sad-u-see

by peacefulpete in

everyone knows that the saducees differed from the pharisees over the teaching of an afterlife(resurrection).

they also didnot accept the idea of angels, demons, and miraculous healings among other things.

the question is why?

peacefulpete

the rhyme is not just a JW thing, it is use by many churches. I will post more info when I get home about my opening statements.

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increase the efficiency of your prayers

by peacefulpete in

according to zoroastrianism, sex was such a sacred thing that prayers uttered while copulating are 10,000 times more effective.

"oh god oh god".

btw according to authorities the jewish prohibitions against homsexuality and bestiality were spawned in persia, not for moral reasons but because the male seed was seen as wasted.

peacefulpete

According to Zoroastrianism, sex was such a sacred thing that prayers uttered while copulating are 10,000 times more effective. "Oh God Oh God". btw According to authorities the Jewish prohibitions against homsexuality and bestiality were spawned in Persia, not for moral reasons but because the male seed was seen as wasted.

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Jews practiced human sacrifice

by peacefulpete in

lev.27:28,29 says ..."but any devoted thing which a man devotes to jehovah from all which belongs to him, of man or of animal, or of the field of his possession, it shall not be sold nor redeemed.

everyone devoted to destruction(sacrificed) is most holy no devoted thing which is dedicated by man shall be ransomed; it shall surely be put to death.

this explains why jeptha, when promising to offer as burnt offering the first person to great him upon his successful return from war, had to kill his daughter dispite his feelings for her.

peacefulpete

An additional example..The famous Abraham and Issac story has BOTH going up the mountain but ONLY Abraham coming back. It is felt by experts in textural critism that later editors adjusted the story by melding it with a another story. I am at work now but the element of a ram being miraculously provided for sacrifice by entangling it in a bush is from Greek mythology.

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6-1-2003 is NOT NEW Light on UN

by cort24r in

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see paragraph 2 and 12 below.

you and other are trying to take two different prophecies and say there is new light.

the 6-1-2003 wt is not talking about trevelation prophecy, but is talking about ezekiel and daniel prophecy.

peacefulpete

The two passages (Ezkiel and Rev)are often linked. So for some to see the newest article's lack of positive identification as evidence of a change in thinking is understandable and quite possibly insightful. It is however unlikely that any dramatic adjustment would be made in one article. It is more likely in my experience that they will build a series of similarly vague statements until a final denial and then declare the change was made years ago. Citing these vague references as proof.

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That's why they were sad-u-see

by peacefulpete in

everyone knows that the saducees differed from the pharisees over the teaching of an afterlife(resurrection).

they also didnot accept the idea of angels, demons, and miraculous healings among other things.

the question is why?

peacefulpete

Everyone knows that the Saducees differed from the Pharisees over the teaching of an afterlife(resurrection). They also didnot accept the idea of angels, demons, and miraculous healings among other things. The question is why? I was always lead to believe as aJW that the Saducees were the apostates in this matter. They were known to more easily accomodate the Greeks and Roman world view so it seemed another example of having been influenced by "false" religion. I was wrong. In fact the Saducees were the purists. They recognized that the ideas of an immortal soul, a resurrection and angels were the result of the Persian Zoroastrian influence. None of these ideas were Jewish in origin. The Saducees were in fact the keepers of the Torah while Pharisees and Christians accepted the Persian ideas with zest.

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Jesus was gay - says academic

by ISP in

jesus was gay - says academic

jesus was gay and so were at least three of his 12 disciples, according to an australian academic.. .

dr rollan mccleary said jesus's astrological chart, clues in the scriptures and biblical translations, all played a part in his conclusions.. in a forthcoming book, he attempts to present st john's gospel in a new light to back up his claims, reports the herald sun.. dr rollan mccleary, a university of queensland phd graduate who now lives in melbourne, has just been awarded his doctorate for a thesis on gay spirituality.. an anglican and a qualified reader of astrological charts, dr mccleary said the planet uranus figured prominently in jesus's astrological chart, as it did with many gays..

peacefulpete

hooberus..please accept my apology. I interpreted your initial comment as suggesting that the Lowdy article supported an Apologist position. I was wrong. You are absolutely correct in saying that he and most secular scholars accept the likelyhood of an historical Jesus. They do for reasons of simplicity generally. It is easier to imagine historical events becoming distorted thru retelling then to ascribe the entire story to an imagination. Of course this alone does not discredit the renewed Jesus myth hypothesis. Many of the once assumed historical elements are now becoming suspect due to a greater understanding of mythology.