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  WOW - 18 Elders in ONE congregation!!!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hazel grove congregation in stockport, cheshire, u.k.. not only is the congregation saturated with elders, it is/was pretty well saturated with cash - according to its 2014 financial statement to the charities commission.

  http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/accounts/ends82/0001066282_ac_20140331_e_c.pdf.

  its elders are listed as frank broadhurst, nick ashton, nigel bailey, noel crossley, peter davies.

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  pale.emperor

  Something tells me the Sidebotham family are "strong" in this hall... either that or nepotism is rife. We had a similar thing in the congregation i grew up in. You were pretty much guaranteed an elder position if you belonged to a certain family.
  
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  Governing Body Member Gerrit Lösch - What The Near Future Holds

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  another talk from my channel.. gerrit lösch - what the near future holds.

  apparently, jehovah god has "revealed" the future to us... unfortunately in 2008 when this talk was given he didnt reveal to them the mass downsizing of bethel staff and buildings, the child molestation payouts and many many changes to doctrine.. https://youtu.be/d8pvnrv5s94.

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  They should've sent Stephen Lett to the royal commission. That would've been cruel but comedy gold. The old fool would wind up committed.

  Its a far cry from what Rutherford was, narcissistic - yes, deluded - yes but outspoken and stubborn.
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  Dumbest elder

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i went to field service group once and the young elder taking the group was wearing a hat and said the prayer with a hat on.

  i informed him later that you are not meant to have head covering, he said he was unaware of such things.

  now that the calibre of recruiting on the part of co..

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  I was told only yesterday that the elder in charge of the accounts has lost a few £££ here and a few £££ there due to having absolutely zero experience in handling finances. A sister who has been a qualified accountant for 30 years and has many many companies as her clients offered to help... what do you think happened? She was told of course she cant help, she's a sister. Only men can do the accounts.

  It boggles the mind.
  
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  Governing Body Member Gerrit Lösch - What The Near Future Holds

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  another talk from my channel.. gerrit lösch - what the near future holds.

  apparently, jehovah god has "revealed" the future to us... unfortunately in 2008 when this talk was given he didnt reveal to them the mass downsizing of bethel staff and buildings, the child molestation payouts and many many changes to doctrine.. https://youtu.be/d8pvnrv5s94.

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  Another talk from my channel.

  Gerrit Lösch - What The Near Future Holds

  Apparently, Jehovah God has "revealed" the future to us... unfortunately in 2008 when this talk was given he didnt reveal to them the mass downsizing of bethel staff and buildings, the child molestation payouts and many many changes to doctrine.

  https://youtu.be/D8pvnrV5s94
  
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  BEARE OF INDEPENDANCE - Leaked Talk On My YouTube Channel

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  brother melvin mallett delivers a talk entitled beware the spirit of independence.

  (because, you know, thinking for yourself is not what jesus wants.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7znpzkakaki.

  oh, and remember folks... this isnt a cult or anything!.

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  I'm saving for later. How recent was this talk given, just out of curiosity?
  

  This talk was labelled as "Fall 2005". So it's 11 years old but still they were stressing against independent thinking way back then.
  
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  BEARE OF INDEPENDANCE - Leaked Talk On My YouTube Channel

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  brother melvin mallett delivers a talk entitled beware the spirit of independence.

  (because, you know, thinking for yourself is not what jesus wants.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7znpzkakaki.

  oh, and remember folks... this isnt a cult or anything!.

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  pale.emperor

  I got loads more to upload on my channel over the coming weeks. An elder passed me loads of recorded talks from Bethel, annual conventions etc to put on his iPod for him. I was warned explicitly NOT to copy or share them.

  So I did the opposite😊
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  BEARE OF INDEPENDANCE - Leaked Talk On My YouTube Channel

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  brother melvin mallett delivers a talk entitled beware the spirit of independence.

  (because, you know, thinking for yourself is not what jesus wants.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7znpzkakaki.

  oh, and remember folks... this isnt a cult or anything!.

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  pale.emperor

  Brother Melvin Mallett delivers a talk entitled Beware The Spirit Of Independence. (Because, you know, thinking for yourself is not what Jesus wants.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zNpZKaKAkI

  Oh, and remember folks... this isnt a cult or anything!
  
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  Can Someone Explain To Me, Are The Org In Debt Or Rich?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  hi guys.. im aware of the orgs blatant hints to donate, donate, donate to the org, the sacking of bethel staff, selling of buildings, reducing mags and books, emphasis on digital rather than physical books etc which is obviously a money saver - but are the wt org in money difficulty?

  because elsewhere on here and on youtube there's stories of the watchtower being mega rich, one even called it "a billion dollar organization".

  and if there is any money in there, who's benefiting off it?

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  Hi guys.

  Im aware of the Orgs blatant hints to donate, donate, donate to the org, the sacking of bethel staff, selling of buildings, reducing mags and books, emphasis on digital rather than physical books etc which is obviously a money saver - BUT are the WT Org in money difficulty? Because elsewhere on here and on YouTube there's stories of the Watchtower being mega rich, one even called it "a billion dollar organization". And if there is any money in there, who's benefiting off it? The GB fly first class, i know that, but what's the real story here?

  
  
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  I don't like the person i am becoming...

  by SpunkedTeen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have not been active here lately just lurking mostly but i have no one to talk to and i need some help i guess.i started working out and became friends with my personal trainer(we went to school together).i started going out with him(lying to my mother about what i was doing,another thing to add to the list of lies,it's becoming too easy!

  ) and i notice i'm slowly becoming the worldy people that the jw's described.i've become very selfish and rude and very apathetic towards everything and everyone.i always thought the values that jw's taught were really good.if i cut ties with the only friend i have now , i would probably slip into a deep depression and i that is something that i want to avoid at all costs.i start university in january and my plan was to stick it out in the organisation until i got my degree and became fully independant but as of late a elder told me i am being considered to become a m.s and told me what i need to work on and since then the other elders have been nagging me to work on the same things.i'm trying to rid my self of my 'priveleges' in the cong but nothings working...if anyone has experienced a similar situation what advice would you give?

  , oh and my mom was always super into the religion having been a pioneer and bethel worker for years but we went to the regional convention two weeks ago and now she is even more exasperating (for example a sister asked my why i was 19 years old and not a ms or serving at bethel yet, which is fine i've learnt how to deal with these questions but when i told my mother whom has always been content with me just being in the religion and never pushed me towards anything asked me if i was happy with what i was and if i would not be happier at bethel or regular pioneering.

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  a sister asked my why i was 19 years old and not a MS or serving at bethel yet

  What a stupid thing to say. Never mind that you may not want to slave for the organization.
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  Letter about changes in book 100 year kingdom

  by Rather Be the Hammer in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  yesterday a letter was read in our congregation.

  it said that there have been doctrinal changes in many chapters of the book 'god's kingdom rules' so everyone but especially the conductor must be sure to use the latest update of the book.. this book is only ...how old?

  two years?

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  You can see why they're really encouraging digital editions of their publications. Changes can be made immediately before anyone even knows.