Posts by pale.emperor

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Talked to a JW in the park

by Xanthippe in

so in my lunch break at work today i walked in the park, just chilling out when a woman approached and offered me a leaflet.

didn't have to read it i knew straight away who she was.. me: my family are involved with jws.

the new world was supposed to come in the mid-seventies but it didn't.

pale.emperor

Nicely done.

I tend to not bother taking to them now, they don't want to discuss the bible. You can tell they're not listening.

Also, last time I tried one of them said "is your name <pale.emperor>?" so obviously someone's forewarned them about me,

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it's goodbye to bristol - hengrove congregation of jw's and the inmates ... err ... members, will be sent to two other bristol congregations either side of it.. i'm told by two elders from bristol, england it is being disbanded on may 1st 2018. this is the 2nd congregation in this circuit to be disbanded recently - the 1st being portishead in late 2014.. hooray!.

pale.emperor

Get the members to contribute their own money to buy land and materials build a new KH
Get the members to actually build the hall themselves for free
Sell the hall and send the money to headquarters

Can you say "scam"?

It's like coming home to find that your room mate has sold all your belongings to buy himself a new car.

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A ridiculous thing I found in the old young people’s book

by Addison0998 in

it was in some book for young people that i found going through the watchtower library when i was doing research for old publications, i cannot believe this lunacy, i feel so bad for the teenagers at the time who had to try to take this seriously, but they’re not a high control religion or cult though, anyways here is is : .

if you sleep in a room alone and you find that you seem to feel special stress in this direction at night, you may be able to arrange matters to share a room with another member of your family.

also, you may find it helpful to sleep on your side rather than on your back or face down.. 18 another thing that may be helpful is to see to it that your clothing does not unnecessarily cause friction with the sexual organs.

pale.emperor

Cant even have a wank in peace.

It's no wonder there's so many hasty marriages, breakups and disfellowshippings for "fornication".

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A & E documentary - family fall-out

by Tallon in

just seen this on exjw reddit - sickening beyond belief!.

long story short, we have not seen hubbys non identical twin nephews (jeremey and jerome) since we gave the middle finger to the jw's 7 or 8 years ago.

we last saw our nephews when they were 9 or 10ish.

pale.emperor

This sounds rather extreme even for JWs... not saying it's not true but im not entirely convinced.

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Random Thought on Drugs/Tobacco Being Sinful Under JW Doctrine

by neverendingjourney in

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a friend of mine was telling me about her recent trip to peru.

she said she had trouble with the altitude in certain areas of peru but the locals offered her a tea derived from the coca leaf and that helped tremendously with her symptoms.. i began to think about how i would have handled the situation as a jw given that coca contains an alkaloid that is used to produce cocaine.

in its natural form, the content is very low and the locals use it as a stimulant similar to coffee.. however, as a jw i would have probably refused to drink it viewing it as something similar to a product derived from tobacco leaves.

pale.emperor

They'd likely pull out some ridiculous example like they did with blood transfusions "if a Dr told you to abstain from alcohol, would it be ok to transfuse it into your veins?" remember that one?

In matters such as these, it's very normal for JWs to simply say "i'll ask the elders" or "i'll have to see what the society says"... never daring to think for themselves.

My guess is, cocoa tea would likely be ok seeing as it's a stimulant like caffeine is a stimulant. I mean, caffeine in high doses can kill too. I think the point is, one needs to be in control of their own mind and body (irony), so that's why drunkenness and getting high is a no-no.

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Witness No More - any thoughts?

by dozy in

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for those who don't know , there is an ex-jw "activist" in the north of england called mark who demonstrates outside kingdom halls , focusing on the child abuse issue and similar topics.

he regularly updates his visits on his youtube channel , which has gained something of a cult following .

occasionally ( albeit less frequently , as he is now well known ) he gets into the kh & shouts and disrupts the meeting.

pale.emperor

Altho I sympathise with this guy, I totally disagree with his method. He goes in and shouts (sometimes with a megaphone) and THIS is precisely what the GB want the JWs to think apostates are like.

Compare this with Zeb Leatherman. Again, it's not my method of waking up JWs but at least doesn't shout. He gets up on the platform and says a prayer highlighting the Watchtower abuses.

I don't know if storming a KH has any positive results in waking up JWs. Most likely they're more distracted by the shouting and I really don't want kids in the KH afraid of some loon coming in shouting down a megaphone.

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What Should I Say?

by cookiemaster in

i need a bit of advice.

i've been pimo for a long time and fading more and more.

i occasionally attend for family but never give any answers or actively participate in any way.

pale.emperor

"Thanks for your concern, but I'm doing just fine and I'm very busy this week".

Or tell them you're going on holiday - then actually have a holiday from "the truth", they'll think you're out of town or something.

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2018-05-18-BOE--Instructions For Circuit Accounting!

by Atlantis in

2018-05-18-s-331-e-boeinstructions for circuit accounting6-pageshttps://we.tl/lm1hgyqxe3atlantis!.

pale.emperor

Gotta hand it to Watchtower, their accountants are on par with Judas when it comes to looking after the money box.

And all tax free!

Im in the wrong job.

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Receiving so much hate recently....

by stuckinarut2 in

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well, as you all know, my wife (unstuck) and i are not df or da.. we just stopped attending several years back after my "apostate" online activity was found by a nosey employee of ours while she was working in our office (long story if anyone wants to know - it would have to be another thread).

we never met with any elders - no congregation judicial activity occurred (as we would never consent to do so anyway).

so our policy has been to be the same kind, loving, normal people we have always been.

pale.emperor

He responded with "Mate, I know what you're trying to do by acting all nice to everyone"

This is actually cognitive dissonance at work.

The borg says "apostates are unhappy, deceitful, hateful and angry"

You're nice to him, which blows his preconception of you - therefore you must be PRETENDING to be nice, therefore you really are unhappy, deceitful, hateful and angry.

The borg wins.

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Material such as the film at the end of this years convention confirms that I was right to take my kids out the religion

by jambon1 in

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it’s quite affirming to see the horrific material that they’re serving up at the convention this year.

aside from blatant homophobia, the scenes at the end of the convention that are discussed on another thread stoop to new levels of fear mongering.

it seems to occur to nobody inside the organisation that this kind of material could trigger fear, deprsssion, anxiety, stress.

pale.emperor

My mother is one of those people who'd strap a bomb to herself and walk into an arena if a GB member told her to. Videos like these thought up by cult leaders always result badly.