Posts by Perry

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I am having a Bad Day today

by KateWild in

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stressed again with my circumstances.

very tiresome, but i need to be positive.

are you an optimistic soul?

Perry

Don't be defeated. When life gives you lemons.... make lemonade!

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Mormons and JW's share(d) these two things...

by ILoveTTATT in

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i was noticing in the photodrama of creation that "nearer, my god, to thee", a song that russel included in the photodrama, is sung in the lds.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaxry1rxzke.

also, "how firm a foundation", also included in the photodrama, is included in lds songbooks.. .

http://www.lds.org/music/library/hymns/how-firm-a-foundation?lang=eng.

Perry

They are just historical Christian hymns.

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What is the OBJECT of Faith For a Christian? (precisely)

by Perry in

of course we were all shamed for not having enough faith in god's spirit directed organization, the elder arrangement, the f&ds ....blah, blah, blah.. but what else is there?

.....another organization, faith in jehovah, faith in jesus, faith in the bible?

what precisely is the primary object of faith for a christian?.

Perry

Murder is Murder regardless of the justification.

"No one takes it away from Me. On the contrary, I lay it down voluntarily." John 19:18 (Amplified)

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What is the OBJECT of Faith For a Christian? (precisely)

by Perry in

of course we were all shamed for not having enough faith in god's spirit directed organization, the elder arrangement, the f&ds ....blah, blah, blah.. but what else is there?

.....another organization, faith in jehovah, faith in jesus, faith in the bible?

what precisely is the primary object of faith for a christian?.

What is the OBJECT of Faith For a Christian? (precisely)

by Perry in

of course we were all shamed for not having enough faith in god's spirit directed organization, the elder arrangement, the f&ds ....blah, blah, blah.. but what else is there?

.....another organization, faith in jehovah, faith in jesus, faith in the bible?

what precisely is the primary object of faith for a christian?.

Yes, a person. Jesus' blood is part of his personage. There is no conflict there. The scripture citation above just narrows down exactly what about that person is the object of faith for a Christian. You can't say you accept Jesus but not his blood covenant and expect your condition to change. This is where the WT goes too far South and promotes self-liberation by their "growing to perfection" doctrine.

About Human Sacrifice:

Every man and woman who has ever lived has been a victim of human sacrice. Man is incapable of self-liberation by any means. "The wages of sin is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord". (NWT) Christ's blood pays this debt vicariously, if we accept it.

God puts an end to Human Sacrifice. We were created for His enjoyment, his pleasure, his family, his love and his Life to be within us, as it is within him.

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What is the OBJECT of Faith For a Christian? (precisely)

by Perry in

of course we were all shamed for not having enough faith in god's spirit directed organization, the elder arrangement, the f&ds ....blah, blah, blah.. but what else is there?

.....another organization, faith in jehovah, faith in jesus, faith in the bible?

what precisely is the primary object of faith for a christian?.

Perry

Of course we were all shamed for not having enough faith in God's spirit directed organization, the elder arrangement, the F&DS ....Blah, Blah, Blah.

But what else is there? .....Another organization, Faith in Jehovah, Faith in Jesus, Faith in the Bible? What precisely is the PRIMARY Object of Faith for a Christian?

BLOOD - that is the object of faith for a biblical, historical, first century kind of Christian.....that's it.

"God presented him as an offering for propitiation through faith in his blood..... forgiving the sins that occurred in the past" - Romans 3: 25 (NWT)

If a person believes that Jesus' Blood Covenant will make him White like snow before a righteous and Holy God who expects the same, then it will. If he don't, it won't. If someone claims to put faith in that blood, then he won't let anyone talk him out of being obedient to Jesus when he said:

And taking a cup, he offered thanks and gave it to them, saying: “Drink out of it, all of you, for this means my ‘blood of the covenant,’which is to be poured out in behalf of many for forgiveness of sins. Mt 26: 27 (NWT)

And, he won't try to add anything to it either..... like faith in a particular church or organization as an additional requirement. "It is finished" , says Jesus.

You can't have it Both Ways Mr. Anonymous Watchtower writer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aGJwAENQuk

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New here and having ah ha moments!

by Angus Beef in

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what made you realize it was time to go?

i've been having health problems for the last few years and instead of any help, i'm listed as spiritually weak and of course associations is only my kids and husband.

all the good jw's have moved to other congregations and are doing well.

Perry

That's how it got for me. Going to the KH just became mentally and emotionally exhausting. With all the clicks and good 'ole boy connections, it was simply too hostile of an environment for me to personally function within.

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Need help to do a "talk"!

by ILoveTTATT in

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the talk is called "the right religion demonstrates true faith in christ".

i have to help my fading gf give the talk.

if you have any subtle "apostate" ideas, i would appreciate them.. here is what i would like to say:.

Perry

How about this:

You: I'm glad you asked this question K. Let's turn to Matther Chaper 26 vs, 27 for the answer:

And taking a cup, he offered thanks and gave it to them, saying: “Drink out of it, all of you, for this means my ‘blood of the covenant, which is to be poured out in behalf of many for forgiveness of sins.

Jehovah's Witnesses show their support for Jesus by reading this scripture each Memorial. It clearly shows how that our forgiveness of sins is inextricably linked to membership in the New Covanant. The Watchtower teaches that the eight man governing body leading our organization have their sins forgiven by their membership in the New Covenant.

Her: Wow. That is so loving! But how can I personally benefit?

You: Well, we as rank and file members receive benefits and are given the priviledge of working for our salvation under their blessed direction. We have hope that one day we will be declared righteous if we remain in good standing with the elders.

Her: Where is that in the bible?

You: Well, I can see that our time is just about up. I think you can see that JW's really do believe in Jesus after all. We will pick this up again next week when we discuss what happens to those who end up at the Great White Throne Judgment without a Mediator. Whew!...Seems to be getting a little hot in here. See you next week!

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OMBG! Waves of bloody nostalgia are sweeping over me!

by fulltimestudent in

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my gay xjw friend sent me a link to a site (must be an unofficial jw site) with so many do and co talks - f*** me dead!

its like hearing the dead talk.

anyway, my friend somehow had found out that one of his (years ago) bible studies was featured on it.

Perry

There are kids on this site. Please clean up the rhetoric.

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Do You Dine out? If so do you return unsatisfactory food?

by KateWild in

i was chatting today in the sauna, as one does if you don't go to meetings about dining out.

one pleasant fellow said he would never return food, he explained it was because he is convinced the staff would do something to the food.. do you agree?.

kate xx.

Perry

Yes and Yes. Last Sunday at IHOP they brought me lukewarm potatoe soup with a glob of sourcream in the middle. I sent it back and asked for simple french fries instead. They brought me lukewarm french fries instead.

The Philly Cheesesteak was nearly rancid and had a hard perimeter around the meat. We stopped at the grocery store on the way home and picked up some buttermilk to try and get the taste out and to try and stop the burping.

Try Buttermilk if you have a bad dining experience. It really does work. The 1% works just as good btw.