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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

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  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  In a related story; In Houston there is a recently unvoted upon city ordinance that allows perverted men who identify with women to legally enter womens restrooms. Houston's lesbian mayor wants to force others to her way of thinking.

  In response to the overthrow of the will of the people, critics organized and collected some 55,000 signatures to force either a repeal or a vote.

  The city secretary stopped counting at about 19,000, affirming that the threshold of some 17,000 signatures had been met. But the city attorney stepped in and imposed several requirements, which opponents said were not in the city charter, and then the city attorney threw out most of the signatures because they didn't have enough signatures! That is simply an outrageous contempt for the law and rights of others.... an identifying mark of anti-theists.

  In response, opponents filed suit. The city then issued subpoenas for the sermons of 5 area pastors, violating their free speech rights. The lesbian mayor is trying to bull-dog the citizens of Houston.
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  900 Top Scientists Sign Statement Skeptical of Macro-Evolution

  by Perry in

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  we are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural .

  selection to account for the complexity of life.

  careful examination of the .

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  I once made the mistake of adressing you Cofty. I asked you were did the DNA code language come from. You simply stated that there was no code. That was the last time I took you seriously. And so no, i don't think I can communicate with you.
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  ordined ministers

  by bobld in

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  the wbts leadership has specific instructions (educational material,books,etc) on how to preach,conduct bible studies and who qualifies to become an ordined minister.the prime obligation of such ministers is the kingdom preaching.*.

  the fds say baptism signifies ordination.almost 8 million j.w.

  are faithfully serving god as his ministers.q2 baptism says.....your dedication and baptism identifys you as one of j.w.

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  Apostate Christendom got to the point of selling "indulgences" before people woke up in the Reformation.

  The watchtower has been selling their various indulgences to biblically illiterate people, and people are waking up as well.
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  This should be an interesting book to read

  by Doug Mason in

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  i have not yet read this book, but it should be interesting:.

  "the better angels of our nature: why violence has declined", steven pinker.. the publicity blurb states:.

  "believe it or not, today we may be living in the most peaceful moment in our species' existence.

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  I sure am about the lack of concern for global warming , all i can think of is that in 15 years when my grandchild is going to be a mom, and my son has kids, the world will be a disaster environmentally

  sowhatnow,

  I think your grandchildren will be OK as far as the weather is concerned. The earth has been cooling for 17 years now and the trend is expected to continue.
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  Christian Pastors ORDERED to Marry Gays or Face JAIL TIME & FINES $$$

  by oneyeopen in

  1. social
  2. current

  o.k just worked out how to start a new post/thread, just came across this and wanted to share with anyone that may be interested.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/.

  coeur dalene, idaho, city officials have laid down the law to christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.. read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/idaho-citys-ordinance-tells-pastors-to-marry-gays-/#ixzz3ibe4kyvq follow us: @washtimes on twitter.

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  Niemöller is perhaps best remembered for the quotation:

  First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
  Because I was not a Socialist.

  Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
  Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

  Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
  Because I was not a Jew.

  Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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  900 Top Scientists Sign Statement Skeptical of Macro-Evolution

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural .

  selection to account for the complexity of life.

  careful examination of the .

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  Perry,

  Many of the atheists are secretly believing in the existence of God and soul.

  Interesting post and link Ex Wt. There are several different kinds of atheists. The new atheists are actually anti-theists. Different atheists (the real ones) are pretty nice folks.
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  update: how did oompa die?

  by kokyong.soon3 in

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  how did oompa die?

  any insight?.

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  ......just terrible.
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  Jesus Christ's horrible death

  by Crazyguy in

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  it amazes me how much thinking one does when you're out of the cult.

  i mean another thread got me thinking about the story of jesus death.

  so adam breaks a little test lives for 900 plus years and then dies of natural causes.

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  How can any free will exist if suffering and death are the consequences of exercising it.

  Some people do choose life with God in a subordinate / forgiven role and others choose the illusion of freedom apart from God. Free will is not hampered at all by the consequences of choice.

  Our prisons which are bursting at the seams, proves the faultiness of your reasoning.

  Again, God and freewill and the deferred adjudicaion sacrificial pardon is not the problem here. The problem here is the concept of sin, and the authority that God has in determining right and wrong. That is what causes so many to have heart burn.
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  Jesus Christ's horrible death

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
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  it amazes me how much thinking one does when you're out of the cult.

  i mean another thread got me thinking about the story of jesus death.

  so adam breaks a little test lives for 900 plus years and then dies of natural causes.

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  Is any death not horrible? I mean we all die. I find that pretty horrible. I'm sure most of us here, when that day approaches will find it horrible.

  Lots of people have died so that others could live. Why do those raging here consider them heros, but God who did the same thing is somehow evil? I suggest that what most have a problem with here is the concept of sin, rather than a loving God who takes the punishment for their sin so that death is abolished.
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  Judge Rutherford did not know he was under the New Covenant in... 1929

  by objectivetruth in

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  the new covenant is the single most important, claim to fame that jehovah's witnesses (the governing body) have.

  in the 2014 watchtower 10/15 "you will become a kingdom of priests" the watchtower says the following :.

  "by means of the new covenant, both jews and uncircumcised gentiles would have an equal opportunity to be heirs of gods kingdom, because their circumcision is that of the heart by spirit and not by a written code.

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  There may be other covenants spoken of in the bible, but the only one that totally secures freedom from condemnation is THE New Covenant.

  People who are forgiven, are said to be born again.

  Rom. 8:9 says that "if anyone have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."

  John 14:17, "for he dwells with you, and shall be in you." - speakng of the essence of God personified as the Holy Spirit

  He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. - 1 John 5: 12

  There is only one access to Jesus and to "life" ...and that is the blood covenant, aka the new covenant.

  The path and hope for humans isn't found in some creed, ideology or belief system, ultimate truth isn't revealed in a stand-alone context, and life cannot be attained by any means aside from the new covenant. " In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins" - Eph 1: 7

  Thomas once inquired as much when he asked: 'how can we know the way? 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.'