I'm okay with trying to pursue the qualities mentioned by Paul as the "fruitage of the spirit."
Reminds me of James 3: 18
"Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace."
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13I'm okay with the "fruitage of the spirit."
by cappytan inthough i now consider myself a secular buddhist, i just realized today that i'm okay with trying to pursue the qualities mentioned by paul as the "fruitage of the spirit.".
the only one i take issue with is "faith" in the context of religion.
what are your thoughts on the matter?.
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Happy Memorial Day
by Perry injust wishing a happy memorial day to everyone!
we had some friends over, barbecued and let the kids run around slap crazy playing cops and robbers and hide and go seek.
we have so many freedoms that those under tyranny do not have.
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Hi Cappytan,
Back porch was covered, we grilled there. House got turned into a playground with 5 kids. It stopped raining long enough for a good long walk though.
My son and I built a rocket with a 2000 ft. capacity. Our plan was to shoot it off on Memorial Day. With a 500 foot cloud ceiling, we decided against.
We're still looking for a Landa Park re-do some Saturday with you all..... if it ever stops raining.
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Happy Memorial Day
by Perry injust wishing a happy memorial day to everyone!
we had some friends over, barbecued and let the kids run around slap crazy playing cops and robbers and hide and go seek.
we have so many freedoms that those under tyranny do not have.
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Just wishing a happy Memorial Day to everyone! We had some friends over, barbecued and let the kids run around slap crazy playing cops and robbers and hide and go seek.
We have so many freedoms that those under tyranny do not have. I give a hearty bow to all those who gave their life so I could be free.
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Atheist Miracles
by Perry ini reworded a variation of a common critique of atheists to my own liking.
no, i do not hate atheists, i love them!
they keep me from getting bored.
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Ok, trying to get control of the math here with some documentation:
There are 1.5 Million printed pages of DNA just printing the first letter of each base pair. Printing both would require 3 Million Pages.
One SINGLE CELL organism has over 200 times this amount of DNA information. (Some multi-cell organisms have double this, but we're just using the amoeba example) That's 600 million printed pages of information. That's is equivalent to 3 Million 200 page textbooks.
If those pages were laid end to end, they would reach halfway to the moon or about 5 times around the equator.
Now keep in mind that the old atheist argument of "junk DNA" has been discarded because a study way back in 2012 accounted for 80% of the links to functionality in humans. I'm sure even more has been accounted for by now and all will be accounted for in the future.
So, I ask anyone, using an atheist paradigm:
How did 600 Million pages of useful information get squeezed into the nucleus of a single cell organism using a 3 dimensional double helix informational storage device that is self correcting, that itself is housed in a cell that has a minimum of 2000 interdependent parts that must have appeared all at the same time in order to function?
LoveUniHate Exams,
Atheists and scientists accept the existence of lions because of the evidence. They don't currently accept the existence of Bigfoot or God or the Flying Spaghetti Monster because there is no evidence for them.
I think you are coming in a little late to the discussion. We have already established the belief in tooth fairies, Batman and Captian America in Atheists who believe in the Multiverse theory. Using this theory, I see no reason why Bigfoot can't be added to the list.
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Atheist Miracles
by Perry ini reworded a variation of a common critique of atheists to my own liking.
no, i do not hate atheists, i love them!
they keep me from getting bored.
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Kill the messenger?
So the FACTS are to be discarded just because you don't like a website that lists scientific peer reviewed articles?
Please enlighten me as to where the millions of printed pages of information in DNA came from. Rocks bumping into each other?
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Atheist Miracles
by Perry ini reworded a variation of a common critique of atheists to my own liking.
no, i do not hate atheists, i love them!
they keep me from getting bored.
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OTWO,
We all engage in Watchtower lingo drivel as entertainment at times. It was so manipulative and now is easy to see the a priori to the Wathctower in all their writings.
But, observing the lingo of atheists reveals the same kind of "absolute" commitment to Materialism. It is this "forced" commitment to Materialism that I criticize, not atheists themselves. With over 90% of all communication being non-verbal, I'm sure I fail to communicate this sufficiently through this written medium.
It is obvious to me that people who have made it out of the Watchtower only to be just as blindly committed to Materialism, irregardless of the facts of our reality, have simply tunneled out of one prison cell into another.
Finklestein,
Certainly finding dinosaur soft tissue, blood vessels, cells, dna fragments, and proteins capable of being sequenced that are a few thousand years old since the flood wiped most of them out - demands an explanation.
The work that has been done on the preservation characteristics of iron help provide such an explanation. Those tests have revealed about a 200 fold delay in decomposition.
However, to achieve the multi-million year delays you claim, would require a 99,800,000-fold9 increase in chemical stability.
This would be indistinguishable from a miracle.
Here's a good list of not-so-old things to ponder - Here
If the whole evolutionary paradigm is off, we would expect to find soft tissue completely irrespective of their evolutionary age. And, this is exactly what we find. Here's a list of dozens of peer reviewed papers on "ancient" soft tissue.
It makes no difference whether its a supposedly 65 Million year old dinosaur, a 150 million year old squid, or 530 Million year old Beard Worms, they all look about the same - fresh, soft & many stink.
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Perry: Where'd y'all go this year?
I went to Costco like a good husband and bought some flowers and earrings I saw my wife recently eyeing. Matching pendant was a bit too steep, but its on the radar for next occasion.
Went to church and heard a message on the biblical command to honor your mother and your father. It's right there in one of the 10 commandments. Can you imagine the Watchtower saying something like,
"Well the old law covenant has been done away with. Now, we we show our obedience by honoring the faithful and discreet slave. We do not engage in worldly holidays that single out individuals for honor."
In the country in Mississippi, when I was a kid, I watched my Grandfather feed poison to a bunch of dogs that had gotten too populated. They lapped it up like there was no tomorrow, growling and fighting each other to get their share.
That's the image that is stuck in my head when I think back on my years as a JW.
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Atheist Miracles
by Perry ini reworded a variation of a common critique of atheists to my own liking.
no, i do not hate atheists, i love them!
they keep me from getting bored.
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Your using your own description which is obviously sensationalize and presumptuously biased.
No, I am not. These are his words, not mine. Quote:
"Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism.
It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door." - Geneticist Professor Richard LewontinProfessor Lewontin uses the language of bondage to an ideology that could easily have come off the pages of the Watchtower. Words like "forced" and acceptance of "patent absurdity" are part of his doctrinal statement, not mine.
Let's look at the definition of a miracle:
mir·a·cleˈmirək(ə)l/noun- a surprising and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific lawsFine TuningWithout question atheist explanations like parallel universes to try and explain the UNDISPUTED FACTS of our observable universe are indistinguishable from a "miracle". If true, parallel universes would just as easily explain the existence of Batman, Wonder Woman & the Tooth Fairy as real individuals....SOMEWHERE in one of those universes.Dinosaur Soft TissueBack in 2005 I broke the story of the discovery of Dinosaur Soft Tissue, blood vessels, & blood cells on this forum.
Those utterly committed to materialism believe that a miracle happened and this stuff lasted for 65 million years.... longer than it will take the Rocky Mountains to rise, erode and rise again.
Dinosaur Protein
Dinosaur Protein has been sequenced along with other tests that strongly suggest the presence of DNA.
However, DNA has been proven to have a half life of only 521 years, making any discoverable DNA impossible after several hundred thousand years (maybe 1 million tops)
Rotting Dinosaur Stench
When the T-rex thigh bone where the soft tissue was found was broken open the researcher remarked that the smell was exactly like a rotting corpse. World famous "Dinosaur" Jack Horner remarked that all dinosaur bones smell like that when opened.
How does a corpse rot and stink for 65 million years? Its a miracle .
"150 Million Yr. Old" Usable Squid Ink
QUOTE: "It is difficult to imagine how you can have something as soft and sloppy as an ink sac fossilised in three dimension, still black, and inside a rock that is 150 million years old."
It's a MIRACLE!!
By the way, the above drawing was done using the squid ink.
DNA Information
Certainly one of the greatest miracles that Atheists believe in is that all the information in DNA came from rocks. One cell contains enough information to fill, get this: ONE MILLION 200 PAGE text books. It's a miracle.
The Single Cell
A single cell has been compared by scientists as having the complexity of a modern city. The various parts are interdependent, meaning than one part cannot exist without the other. How did this happen? Atheists tell us its a miracle of chance.
This video was produced by Harvard University. Friends, we are in the presence of an incomprehensible intelligence. Yet, atheists scientists who cannot even produce a leaf or a twig, try to sell us their miracles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzcTgrxMzZk
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Atheist Miracles
by Perry ini reworded a variation of a common critique of atheists to my own liking.
no, i do not hate atheists, i love them!
they keep me from getting bored.
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Would you like to see Universities and Colleges dismantled that study biology, archeology, astrophysics and so on ?
This is the same argument that the WT (and even we ourselves) used to make when presented with JW false teachings. We would say, "Where else are we to go". In other words, we would reason that the Wt organization was so magnificent that even thinking of going anywhere else was unthinkable. It is not necessary that we have such blind allegiance. There is a middle ground in here.
I have presented the doctrinal statement that atheist scientists adhere to as stated by Professor Lewontin several times over the years. I have never had any atheist deny those tenets on this forum.
Notice the language of bondage and slavery that he uses: acceptance of absurdity and 'just-so' stories, ignoring failure, being compelled, being forced, etc.
Since when did accepting absurdity and forcing ideas have a place in our education institutions? Since, the money trusts said that they did.
We are seeing the same kind of indoctrination in our universities promoting tolerance, respect, political correctness and understanding of Islam. These are ideas that are totally foreign to an Islamic culture toward others. Yet, these appeal to our Western ideas of fairness, while our enemies plot (not just our defeat) but our annihilation.
News Reporter Bridgette Gabriel recently had this to say regarding the education system in America:
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Atheist Miracles
by Perry ini reworded a variation of a common critique of atheists to my own liking.
no, i do not hate atheists, i love them!
they keep me from getting bored.
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This is the World that we Left:
Our willingness to follow Jehovah’s Organization in things that opposers say are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between Jehovah’s Witnesses and false religion. We take the side of the Faithful and Discreet Slave Class in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of when Armageddon would come, in spite of the tolerance of the Witness community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to Jehovah’s Wife-Life Spirit Directed Organization.
It is not that the methods and institutions of the world somehow compel us to accept Watchtower explanations, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to Watchtower objectives to create an apparatus of bible study and a set of concepts that produce explanations in-line with Jehovah’s Organization, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, the commitment to Jehovah’s Organization is absolute , for we cannot allow the Devil’s foot in the door.
This is the World that atheists have Embraced:
"Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism.
It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door." - Geneticist Professor Richard LewontinAre there any atheists here that would like to disagree with Professor Lewontins' position?